XP airguns ranger 45 caliber 36inch barrel MONSTER !
I now have my new xp airguns ranger 45 caliber airgun , and i must say this is a MONSTER shooting gun . 😆 😆 😆 😆
So far i have tested out 454 round ball ,and 250 grain laser cast bullets .
during brake in so far the round ball is working better , dead on accurate shooting 3000 psi 1070 fps on low power , mid power 3800 psi 1150 fps working down 9 shots to 877 .
The laser cast 250 grain stuff , on mid power 987fps working down 9 shots to 720 ,
these numbers should improve by around 50 fps after break in according to Dan Mcvey .
this gun gets a lot of shots for a big bore , and with the long barrel the power stays up even at low pressures . 😉
some pics shooting this weekend.
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you can’t have any roundball if you don’t eat your meat ! 😆 😆 😆 😆
No gravey? 😆
Round balls anyone ? 😆 😆 i did some more tonight 😆
this is a piece of plywood that i killed sunday 😆 just sap came out of the holes 😆 😆 with round ball mostly and a few regular bullets out 50-60 yards
the pic with the balls in the hole’s is what i shot this morning with the new round ball stuff , it will kill bud cans/ coors cans , even those hard to kill chili-cans 😆 i just stuck new balls in the holes so you could see how well they fit . you can see just how accurate those shots were , i had just 2000 psi left in the gun ,
Seriously, is it that stepped down tail?
I bet you could get Tom to exclude that from the design if that is the problem.
I assume it is there to faclitate loading into a percussion cylinder.
Regards,
Roachcreek
I think Mark Whyte said that it’s the very narrow bands (along with their shape), combined with the huge lube groove that make them hard to fill out, and/or get to drop out of the mold.
Butcher,
Seriously, is it that stepped down tail?
I bet you could get Tom to exclude that from the design if that is the problem.
I assume it is there to faclitate loading into a percussion cylinder.
Regards,
Roachcreek
Yeah, 🙄 yeah, 🙄 yeah, 🙄 but we want to know if you like them ❓ 😆
Regards,
Roachcreek
I’ll let you know when I cast some……I hear they are a PITA to cast. I’m leaning towards the 180grain version.
Butcher,
Yeah, 🙄 yeah, 🙄 yeah, 🙄 but we want to know if you like them ❓ 😆
Regards,
Roachcreek
The EPP/UG was designed to make the roundball obsolete, which I believe it now is. The EPP/UG is superior to roundball in every way no matter what power level rifle they are being shot from. They are more air efficient than roundball, cut a better hole in both paper and game, make a little more energy, and they are even CHEAPER. I bet they cut plywood better, too.
Granted, they’re probably tougher to cast than roundball.
Tof,
I am truely sorry, I just could not resist that one, I beg your forgiveness. 😳
There is something about all those projectiles in the boxes all lined up that makes you want to go out and cast.
I bought 10 -45 caliber empty plastic cartridge boxes from Midway to store my 408’s in, I used to use those boxes for that before and it always worked out. I gues in a pinch I can store balls in them, 2 or 3 per cartridge slot.
Yeah I know I left myself open on that one.
Regards,
Roachcreek
RC…..of course you can joke with me man….i liked that one. But its ON between me and you now…lol
For low power and small game and general plinking stuff ya just can’t beat round balls. The are the best in my Dragon Slayer 454 when hunting Jack Rabbits.
DAN and RC…you guys have influenced me enough. Going to order me a RB mold this weekend. I used to just buy the Hornadys but, i guess i’ll cast me up some.
Butcher,Slayer Dan, et al.,
I have ordered a RB Lee mold, shit for 20 bucks why not?
I would shoot a racoon, squirrel or a feral cat with the RB, but I have a 25 Condor for that, and frankly I would rather the racoon or squirrel run off somewhere to die, saves me from handling the damn or critters.
Shooting for meat, the 408 and ones like them are always the king, deep pertration, a wound channel that stays open and much more retained energy.
But for just blasting fun, the RB is great I think. Dan’s plywood may not have gone down or left a blood trail, but he had a lot of cheap fun.
Now when you throw that same RB at muzzle loader velocities, you get expansion and a killer out of proportion to the weight. But were not shooting them that fast, so the fact that many animals have died from RB in not an issue, many more have died from blood poisening and infection, and that is why we hunt with conicals.
For Butcher the epp ug slug is a better option than RB, because of his power level on the 45 he shoots
Dan have you checked out the Rotometals site yet?
Loving that casting aren’t you?
Regards,
Roachcreek
In Dan’s defense it was me who was ignorant not dan.
rb is out. lol
DanH, when you get your mold, cast up some of those Casull boolits and shoot some paper, and especially something breathing you will see the truth. The banded/large meplat slugs cut a much easier to measure/see hole in paper than roundball/roundnose slugs.
I’ve shown you the difference on hard mediums (the novel), now I’ll show you the pictures of how weak a RB/RN design is on an animal. After all, we are most concerned with affectively shooting animals, not plywood or books. Did you not read what I wrote about the coyote Dan? That is real world experience shooting an animal with roundball.
Will RB kill? Sure. The fact remains that it is BY FAR the WEAKEST projectile in the world for hunting, and will produce the slowest kill due to it’s very narrow wound channel and likelihood to NOT maintain it’s intended path.
Here is the exit wound from a RB….it’s the small spot towards the very back of the ribcage, just to the right of where the two blades of grass cross. The RB failed to maintain a straight path on a broadside lung shot due to deflecting off of a rib (a common occurrence with RB even when shot from muzzleloaders) exiting much farther back than it should have.
Compare to this exit wound made from a conical with a nice cutting band. I didn’t get a good picture of the exit wounds in the coyote I shot with the same conical as this bobcat, but they look the same.
Banded Conical entry wounds
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LOOKS like gold to me!!!! Nothin like bran new shiny cast slugs. 🙂