I like the look of the new FX Bobcat stock
just saw a picture of it and it Looks much, much better.
Still if I had one I would cut the stock down where the Mag hole is š š
I will be shooting a Cat .30 in a few minutes :):)
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IMO the ergonomics are more comfortable than either a Cricket or Matador. Personally I like the pistol grip on the original Bobcat stock. Ted may be the only person here who has put his mitts on both the old and new stock. So what say you Ted? Which is more functional?
Did shoot one for looong time ago. Tried the Indy too. Not shot one with the new stock though. Still ugly as hell.
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I would be VERY interested in seeing a Bobcat in walnut. I bet that would make a big difference to many. Just offer both stock choices and I think they sell 20-30% more guns or even more. Let’s just say it’s one of the least attractive Bullpup I’ve seen….but it shoots fantastic from what everyone says….yet I still wouldn’t buy one. How many others do you think agree? The new one looks better then the first for sure.
I don’t know, that’s just me.
Michael is right,
You might not like the looks of the Cat, but definatly the ergonomics are way superior than both the Edgun and Cricket
The true pistol grip is way better than any grips with the attachment,….. that was the 1st thing I noticed with my Stormpups
Damn, a bunch of haters on this forum! Most of whom probably haven’t had the pleasure of shooting the Bobcat.
IMO the ergonomics are more comfortable than either a Cricket or Matador. Personally I like the pistol grip on the original Bobcat stock. Ted may be the only person here who has put his mitts on both the old and new stock. So what say you Ted? Which is more functional?
Let me know, a friend of mine here might really pick that offer up. I’ll put him in contact with you if you don’t mind
I’m not to fond of that new stock. Too bulky from head to toe. Should of stuck with the pistol grip, made the forearm just a tad bit thicker without the old rail and kept the butt like how it was before. I just put a deposit down on mine and if i get the new stock i might be looking to trade with someone for the old stock and a little extra cash š
Spot on overall assestment
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My dear demented Old Goat…
You’ve “shot two and twenty blackbirds“. Had you shot “[i]four and twenty blackbirds[/i]”, you could have made a pie!!! What the hell were you thinking? Two more birds!!! Just two more birds, and you would have had a nice meal. Dammit man…If I’ve admonished you once, I’ve admonished you dozens of times…Don’t drink your supper…if you have to crawl from your house to your back yard, you are in NO condition to shoot anything. I know you work very hard for a living. I know your co-workers have the intelligence of a common roofing nail. But, this is NO reason for you to squander, in a drunken frenzy, the natural resources on your property. Every time you awaken in the morning, in your back yard, surrounded by dead black birds, with an empty bottle of Jack Daniels next to your face, a spilled tin of JSB Exacts in the grass, your hand grasping a plywood-stocked FX bullpup, and wearing urine soaked jeans…you have once again surrendered yourself to excess!!!
Children of the forum…take a lesson, DON’T drink and shoot!!! (Further, don’t breed outside of your species…)
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As long as they use the Royal breech/airtube combo thereĀ“s not much FX can do in redesign. The stock has to house the airtube and the Royal breech is … well – itĀ“s a breech designed ground up for Royal which isnĀ“t a Bullpup. Back to the drawing board and start from the scratch, Fredrik.
I feel that is the same exact fault in the EdGun Multishot as well : ItĀ“s an afterthought. I know iĀ“ll get a lot of shit over that comment but wait and see yourselves. The whole USA was screaming after a MS thus Ed had to come up with one as cost effective as possible and he managed to do that quite well too. The problem is , IMO , that the R3 breech/hammer housing – and function is designed for a single shot and with the current design (without levers and such) it would be hard to make a MS that is smooth and light to operate. The dGun MS has the best looks of any current MS breech – apart from a Steyr (which has an ugly 5 shot Pez-dispenser for a mag though) – but itĀ“s stiff in action. In this particular case stiff isnĀ“t desirable …
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If the rear of the stock has to be longer because of the magazine; I guess Ed and cricket both really dropped the ball on that one!
I thought that one of the advantages of a bull pup was that you had your head upright when shooting it.
Cricket didn’t drop the ball, they have the magazine inside the breech while in FX it pops up. It’s a personal thing of course but for me that magazine popping up wouldn’t work, I like to keep my cheek against the breech/cheek rest when shooting and buttpad against my shoulder and not have the magazine digging in to my cheek. My current bullpups have longer breeches putting the magazine more forward, if they had FX breeches the mag would be just in the wrong place.
Of course FX could just make higher cheek rests for the breech that would hide the magazine and then shorten up the stock.
RKR, I have to call bull shit on your post! My, not even close to being as ugly as either of the Bob Cats in its non-finished, homemade mode still had an adequate cheek rest. The magazine didnāt get in the way.
If the rear of the stock has to be longer because of the magazine; I guess Ed and cricket both really dropped the ball on that one!
I thought that one of the advantages of a bull pup was that you had your head upright when shooting it.
If somebody would donate a Bob Cat to me, I could come up with a far better looking bull pup than what FX came up with. I have owned 2 FX air guns; I canāt even imagine ever wanting to buy another one. The problem with my Royale/Boss build was that the big bottle made the stock out of proportion to the rest of the gun. The smaller air tube that the Bob Cat uses would allow me to make a better proportioned stock for it.
FX could have used the same setup that Ed and Cricket uses, who knows just why in the hell that they didnāt!
Maybe FX just wanted to blaze new trails and come up with something different, if that was the reasoning behind the design of the Bob Cat, they sure as hell succeeded! It is both different and fugly!
The problem is the breech design. The magazine sticks up forcing your head back and the breech is too short to allow proper rail attachment for bullpups. To fix these things FX has extended the stock and cheekrest way back while the proper action would have been to redesign the breech to sink in the magazine. That would have allowed moving the barrel up and using large diameter shroud and cutting off extra length in the stock. Then add a rail support similar to Edgun and Cricket and relocate the trigger some 6″ forward. The same breech could then be used on full length guns allowing low scope mounts and silencers/shrouds that have adequate volume to be truly efficient. Instead they made do with unfit for purpose design and created what looks to be a horrible compromise š
Video of the Bobcat in action. Note the large back end of it does not seem to hinder its agility
Boelick, my son….you are a man of exquisite taste! I, for one, was turned on with your Bobcat video.
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That’s a Bobcat allright … A Beluga whale, Walruss and a Belgian Blue molted together. The finer things in life …
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I made a bull pup out of a 22 cal FX Royale 400. Here is a pic of the gun when I first got it shooting. I did a lot of filing and sanding to the stock after this photo was taken. I used the same setup for the Boss. The only modification to the stock needed for the Boss to fit was I had to lengthen the cut away for the longer Boss bottle.
I donāt have any pictures of the gun after I finished it.
I made the stock out of Ā¼ā birch sheets. I didnāt have to inlet the stock anywhere. I cut the inner sheets away to clear the trigger assembly, breech block, trigger rod and bottle. Once I got them to clear everything, I glued all of the sheets together and cut the outside dimensions out with a jig saw.
The stock was actually very easy to make and, at least in my opinion, it didnāt turn out too bad for my first try at making a bull pup. If I could make something that looks at least as good as the Bob Cat with a drill, jig saw, files and sandpaper, why canāt Fredric make a nice looking bull pup. Hell, why donāt he do like the Crickets do and just copy the Edgunās stock?
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I don’t know, that’s just me.
I agree, the second stock looks better but could look even better still in a slimmer walnut design.. Someone send me a Bobcat and Ill make a shorter and simmer walnut stock for it! While I’m at it Ill fit a better scope riser mount that doesnt look like an after thought and get rid of that awful gap between the shroud and cylinder by making a larger volume suppressor that wouldnt have to be as long either..
Fredric feel free to steel these ideas.. Ill just take one in .30cal as a one off royalty payment š