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Making the .25 Edgun quiet, easily and inexpensively…

The key to the Edgun .25 making less noise is reducing the air pressure at the muzzle. There are a few ways to do this without engaging in exotic baffle designs, or spending money on an aftermarket shroud or moderator.

Here’s how it’s done:

The first step is to remove both the baffle cover, which is unscrewed counter clockwise, by hand, then removing the bottom shroud by removing the barrel bushing/vent nut. Then you can easily enlarge the existing vent holes at the rear of the Edgun shroud with a variable speed hand drill. I made my lower shroud vent holes 2.0mm in diameter:

You can go larger if you wish. If you go too large and begin to hear air “whoosh” out of the vent holes when firing, just wrap some felt around the inside of the shroud, behind the vent holes, to slow the air down. You can touch them up with the tip of a permanent ink black felt tip Sharpie. This is how they look when done, but before the Sharpie touchup:

The next step is to increase the air flow from the front of the Edgun to the rear of the shroud. Now on the R3 this is a bit more complicated because the shroud comes in two parts, so I will concentrate on the R3. Unscrew the top shroud, baffle cover, taking care to remove it easily because the O-ring can be damaged on the threads. Be sure to put silicone grease that O-ring before putting it back on. Note the bottom shroud, and barrel, are held in place by a 19mm nut with vent holes in it. It unscrews easily, counter-clockwise, with a common metric wrench:

After it is taken off, you then enlarge the holes in the nut with a variable speed drill. I went 2.5mm, you may choose to go smaller, but not much larger, as the hole diameter affects the strength of the nut.

After this is done, you simply replace the bottom shroud, then the barrel bushing, being certain that the bottom of the shroud is properly placed OVER the rim of the permanent cone shaped breech attachment. If you ignore this step, you will bend the bottom of the shroud when you tighten the nut…note the bottom of the shroud sitting flush against the cone shaped breech attachment in this picture. The hidden rim inside the shroud is about 1/8″ or so tall, but it must have the shroud placed evenly over it before tightening the nut. When you lift up and remove the bottom shroud, you will easily spot it, as the cone shaped breech attachment remains in place:

Finally, there has been much discussion regarding how much torque must be used to tighten the nut that holds the barrel and bottom shroud in place. This is not a difficult process. First you obtain a Russian Torque Wrench…see below picture:

Placing the 19mm wrench in this handy grasping tool, you tighten the nut to where it is snug against the shroud, then you go roughly 1/2 turn further. That’s all it takes. Remember, this is thin and fairly soft aluminum and will strip threads or bend rather easily. AND…if you have placed the bottom of the barrel shroud over the lip of the cone shaped breech attachment, you will not have bent, or dented, the bottom of the shroud.

Replacing the top shroud (baffle cover) is easily done, just be careful sliding the cover over the O-ring using a light downward pressure and clockwise screwing motion until it gets past the threads on the cover. Snug it up hand tight, no more.

That’s it! You can expect at least a 50% reduction in muzzle blast, which on the Long Edgun makes the hammer slap the loudest noise emitted when shooting the gun. It costs nothing, takes about 1/2 hour, a couple of metric bits, and a variable speed hand drill. Take your time. The existing holes will guide the bit if you proceed slowly, especially when starting the new hole.

Now, for that hammer slap…I’m still working on that one.

Regards,

Kindly ‘Ol Uncle H 😯 😯 t

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Those videos are really embarrassing. Drinking all of that beer and I bet those young women all eventually get naked. Any pictures? 😯

H 😯 😯 Tmeister…

You must have caught me when we were celebrating the pagan ritual of “midsummer’s eve”!
Just to be clear, this is one day and night a year and the next day no one stands for what happened or can even remember the night before.

I’ve made a quick video to explain especially for you hOOt, please look here

For the rest of you that wonder what he’s on about here is the video hOOt is refering to

I’m the one in the pink top and as I said, it never happened :party:

Yours :evil:[/quote]

Hoot
May you silently bask in the glory of your neighbors ignorance of your basking pleasure.

Looks nice, but want to know how the new shroud got attached onto the barrel, some pre-tension is needed. πŸ™„

I want to cry.. take my money!!! Thanks for the updates Hoot

Thanks for the post Hoot, great stuff! :8: :8: :8:

Mike

With the extra volume of a can, I’m sure it will wayyyy more quiet than in stock form.

I’m ready to order mine.

Gabe

It’s on :8: :7: :8:

Progress has been made. Here’s a picture of the basic, threaded carbon fiber shroud on the Edgun .25 Long:

Here it is with an LDC attached, for those special occasions:

Note that Neil has made his shroud shorter than the OEM. This is to allow for the extra length of an add-on LDC.

The LDC attached to the shroud is one of Neil’s units he used to test the effect of an added LDC. The fact that I can easily add and remove an LDC, is a BIG selling point for Neil’s shroud. There’s very limited improvement you can squeeze out of a 1″ shroud, with the barrel on the Edgun .25 caliber Long. The Standard Edgun .25 can probably get the job done with a longer NC shroud alone. The Long .25 is going to need an LDC to get where some of us want/need to be. The fact that it’s removable is what makes it work for me!

I don’t know his pricing yet. That has to be worked out. He has made replacement shrouds for the Cricket, that might give you some idea of where the cost ends up. He will probably post details on his web site, or possibly here, when he feels he is ready to proceed.

Mine was simply the prototype, to show proof of concept. This whole exercise was to allow Neil, hands-on access, to see what would work best on this particular Edgun Long.

The Long Edguns are unique. The suppression of their sound signature needs a two part answer, shroud and LDC. Neil’s got the best answer to date by anyone..and it only adds 4″ to the OAL to a gun you can now shoot indoors! I’ll buy that any day of the week.

Regards,

Kindly ‘Ol Uncle H 😯 😯 t

quote donnyfl:

The option to keep it the same length as OEM sounds great. Did he mention how long the “can” will be? Standard NC length 6-7 inches? If it is 7 inches, that’ll bring the STD up to 37 inches and 42 inches for the long version.

I’m hoping he will finish up by the end of next week and I can let you guys know how he worked out the problem. It’s all research and development at this time, so any initial comments I made are subject to any changes Neil feels necessary. It does seem a two piece shroud/moderator is the best answer. The shroud replacement may/may not be quieter than the OEM, what it does offer is the option to add the moderator to bring it down to very very quiet. That’s my best guess right now. Neil is still working his magic.

The option to keep it the same length as OEM sounds great. Did he mention how long the “can” will be? Standard NC length 6-7 inches? If it is 7 inches, that’ll bring the STD up to 37 inches and 42 inches for the long version.

Look forward to pictures and review.

quote donnyfl:

Bumping this thread back to the top.. Hoot did the eagle land on Neil’s lap yet?

He received it today and offered me a couple of options, one which I really like..

Neil suggested two types of solution to the noise produced by the powerful .25 caliber. He’s already done this mod for the Cricket. It looks really slick, and reports are that it is very very quiet.

The First Solution: A one piece replacement carbon fiber shroud, with improved baffles, and a threaded end. That way I keep the OEM length, but can screw on a NC extra “can” for those special occasions.

The Second Option: A one piece shroud, with a permanent can attachment, but it all stays in place…no option to remove later.

I believe option “1” is the best. Neil has some modified baffles he uses that he says will outperform the Edgun OEM baffles. I’m good with that. And…if I need a bit more, I can screw on the “can” which will be 1.5″ OD and take care of any residual air.

I’m really curious to see how this turns out. Looks, and efficiency, Neil’s shroud and moderator work has always been first rate!

Pics to follow when he finishes the project.

Thanks for the input on the trigger.

H 😯 😯 t

Bumping this thread back to the top.. Hoot did the eagle land on Neil’s lap yet?

quote Hoot:

quote Sir Ville:

quote Dr.KrillE:

Oh wise one, Hoot.
What’s up with you and your politicians? Clinton had his cocksucker, Lewinsky and Obama has a guy that blows his whistle, Snowden…. What’s next? A cuntlicker if you get a female pres?

Sent from GT-I9505 with Tapatalk & a beer in my hand…

DonΒ΄t you dare badmouth Obama in front of Uncle H 😯 😯 T. He voted the guy, marched around Arkansas with that “Yes, we can” banderoll and participated in numerous Democratic rallies. You, Dr. , should show a squash more respect for an old liberallly Democratic man from the mountains.

Smelt sucking Scandinavian sluts!!!

Baron von Sir Ville…why does your wife roll her eyes, and refer to Dr. Evil as “‘Ol Mule Dick”??? Huh? Huh?

Dr. Evil…Do you really think your cross-dressing, transvestite, sleep-over visitors, have escaped the prying eyes of the Baron? The night he chose to observe your nocturnal activities, as luck would have it, was the one night his wife chose to stay home for once. He still got pictures…embarrassing pictures, of you, dressed in a Tutu, apparently trying to play “Leapfrog” with the guy bent over in front of you…and that guy playing Leapfrog with the guy bent over in front of him…and on and on, till he said a complete circle was formed with eleven of your corpulent friends. Is this a national pastime? Some ancient Nordic Winter ritual?? Huh? Huh????

With kindness and love in my heart for all…

‘Ol Uncle H 😯 😯 t

H 😯 😯 Tmeister…

You must have caught me when we were celebrating the pagan ritual of “midsummer’s eve”!
Just to be clear, this is one day and night a year and the next day no one stands for what happened or can even remember the night before.

I’ve made a quick video to explain especially for you hOOt, please look here

For the rest of you that wonder what he’s on about here is the video hOOt is refering to

I’m the one in the pink top and as I said, it never happened :party:

Yours πŸ‘Ώ

I previously communicated with Neil but never moved forward.

Now that the Hootmeister is doing the heavy lifting, I’m in.

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