New R3 .25…..damaged!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I literally received my R3 .25 just 5 minutes ago from UPS, but there’s some very serious problems.
1. The case zipper is completely cut through on each side.
2. But, wait a minute. Holy cow!!!! The walnut stock is completely cracked. If I pull on it with the sightless effort, I’m sure that whole piece would fall off.
I can understand damage can occur during transport, but there’s no visible damage to the containing box. I can’t believe I waited 9 months and paid $2050.00 for this.
Tony – I sent you a mail. Please advise.
James
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found it wise to put down the first wrap of small bubbles then use a sheet of large bubble 4 or 5″s longer on both ends
go two layers, cut then fold the ends over and tape
can’t stand peanuts, messy and tend to shift above heavier objects
best option is crumpled balls of newspaper
last thing I’ll add is metal components should always be given a light coat of oil prior to buble wrapping
just a little salt from ones hands can end up as bad rust real fast in a sealed bubble wrapped environment
Ooh I like that idea! Gonna file that away in the memory banks, will certainly make it easier to get the whole package back in the box over a huge lump of bubble wrap. 😉
Yep, the big bubble wrap is the way to go! The little stuff is too thin. 😡
I totally agree, end grain is not made to stop that kind of energy, well, at least not that little thickness of end grain.
Maybe for the R3.5 the half round inlet will just continue past the end of the dropoff at the butt plate and that part of the stock could be taken away.
on FWBs and such I just slide the trigger blade off
when removal is not an option I push the blade carefully in a styrofoam block after the first layer of small bubble wrap, tape the block in place then follow with large bubble wrap, usually two thicknesses.
The pix above illustrate the inertial mass issue clearly
I would agree but that trigger blade will puncture bubble wrap and mess up whatever it comes in contact with and take some damage itself.
Most rifles have a protruding trigger when separated from their stocks, it always makes me nervous when shipping rifles in two parts… 😯
I just add even more bubble wrap in that area! 😉
I wonder if an insert could be added to the stock for shipping to prevent any shifting of the action in the stock…?
I totally share your frustration, – and there is a lesson to be learned from this, – even after receipt of a gun……
If you look inside the stock, – you’ll find that only the “end cap” of the reservoir is firmly seated against the stock/wood. The part of the action containing the trigger assembly etc., is not seated against the wood at all. There’s a gap of several mm between the metal and the wood….
Check these out, – and you’ll understand:
So be careful and make sure your stock is securely fastened to the action at all times. The end cap of the reservoir is there as a “hammer” ready to hit the end of the stock whenever it gets the chance to do so………. 😉
And there’s not a lot of wood at the back there to take the pressure….
Cheers from Trygve who recommends for stock and action to be separated and bubble wrapped before shipment…… 😀
straight inertia
this is why so many guns get their stocks trashed being shipped in hard cases…the guns can’t move if dropped so the stock gives out.
you actually want an assembled rifle to have a degree of internal movement but heavily cushioned on the ends but you are still chancing fate
the rifle that is fixed in position by even a harder foam will end up trasmitting the inertia of the mass of the metal components to wherever it contacts the much weaker stock
been shipping rifles for decades
this has been well cussed and discussed on the Yellow
Me?
A hard case won’t necessarily stop the inertial damage, the rifle can still slip between the two pieces of foam (shit my rifles slide if I lift the case quickly). It would have to be a cutout foam (soft foam) insert to the shape of the rifle. Last time I checked this technique is rarely used.
I think a good application of bubble wrap (two layers all the way around, possibly more on the ends) would really help prevent these issues…
Wait, are we saying the same thing? 😆
It’s a joke really, someone called me a douche a ways and I said I was to be addressed as “King Douche”. 😉
I’m still not sure why BYAG felt the need to question my politics though… I think he saw the post where I was trying to keep people from bothering Tony and labeled it as politics or something… 😕
If he is truly what he posted he would actually agree with my politics he has labeled as “fucked”… It was a trick question really and he failed the pop quiz to boot. 😉
you are missing what causes this kind of damage
straight inertia
this is why so many guns get their stocks trashed being shipped in hard cases…the guns can’t move if dropped so the stock gives out.
you actually want an assembled rifle to have a degree of internal movement but heavily cushioned on the ends but you are still chancing fate
the rifle that is fixed in position by even a harder foam will end up trasmitting the inertia of the mass of the metal components to wherever it contacts the much weaker stock
been shipping rifles for decades
this has been well cussed and discussed on the Yellow
both parties have issues, but so do you 😆
hey I got stock that needs inletting 😀
King XXXX, wtf, where did that come from and why?
Somehow I don’t think it can be prevented from shifting, but some of the shock from abuse can be diminished… It just depends on how much bubble wrap you can buy in bulk so you can get it on the cheap. 😉
Comparatively speaking, with the time that will be spent with UPS and dealing with that process for just these two cases alone a little bubble wrap would be money well spent.
Ok, so you may have to buy some packing tape, that stuff IS expensive! 😯 😡
Alright King Douche, Im not really one side or the other, but Im not independent.
both parties have issues, but so do you 😆
hey I got stock that needs inletting 😀
only thing Tony can do is to ship the action removed from the stock
heavily bubble wrap both with the action in the peanuts and stock in the case.
as long as the action is in the stock no matter how well you pack it you are fighting inertia and some will likely lose
I disagree, prevent the gun shift inside the nylon case…problem solved
none of the suggestions so far posted will prevent the damage we are seeing
only thing Tony can do is to ship the action removed from the stock
heavily bubble wrap both with the action in the peanuts and stock in the case.
as long as the action is in the stock no matter how well you pack it you are fighting inertia and some will likely lose
you guys make me more more worry about my 2 Edguns will arrive sometime today…….. if my 2 Edgun get damage….. I will be verrrrry Pisssss off…… because We all pay lot $$$ and long time of waiting to get it…. to be perfect production….. not a damage one….. 😈 😈 😈
Ta
Nah, only one….
I’m bad 🙄
Gotta lighten up, shit happens
If you don’t sweat the little stuff, you realize, there is no big stuff, only a lotta little stuff..
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Here’s my take: packing peanuts are worthless and a $2000 gun ought to be packed so you can kick it across the country and it gets there in one, uncracked piece.
I don’t agree that the action needs to be separate from the stock…unless, substandard packing is going to be used.
Shit, I pack lead slugs better than the packaging I just read about for an expensive gun!
Oh, I buy insurance on all the slugs we ship and always figured I’d have to file the claim for lost goods and at least be a part of claims for damaged goods since I bought the insurance and paid the shipping bill.