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Ranger 45

Well I have a tracking number for the Ranger 45 that was assembled, test fired, chronyed, and shipped today.

28 inch barrel, standard stock and black crerakote finish, $1230 dollars including shipping.

To early to get the arrival date, it is not in the system yet.

Chrony numbers were:

Round ball. low setting 3000 PSI……1018 FPS
225………. low setting 3000 PSI……..877 FPS
405 shot 1 hi setting 4500 PSI………804 FPS
340 shot 2 hi setting 4500 PSI………843 FPS
These numbers will improve by 30 to 50 FPS as the rifle breaks in.

Regards,

Roachcreek

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Charlie did you test those bullets -casull’s out yet ?

Charlie you should see some bullets -casull’s -348’s tomorrow 😆 i am betting, shoot these on high power- around 4000 psi , and see what happens .

LOL…..yuck it up you 2.

Guess i should have figured that by his number of post. 😆

quote Jerry:

Ced,

You just fell for a spambot!

😆

A good one though in fairness…..

Ced,

You just fell for a spambot!

hummmm!! why is sizing bullets so bad?

I love to do it. Its time consuming but its supposed to be. So is casting and reloading. It only takes me about 15 minutes to size roughly 100 bullets. It takes me way longer than that to cast 100 bullets. My guns prefer sizing. Seems to me it makes the bullets more uniform plus i don’t have a mold that drops EXACTLY at the size my rifles like.

today I shot the new bullets out of the cleaned mold at 75 yards, and they stayed on a piece of typing paper but not much better than that.I went up to the shop to switch tanks and picked up some of my reject bullets I had put in the melt pile.They had not been sized.I went down to the range and shot the rejects, and I realized why I don’t like to size bullets.

quote roachcreek:

Tof and Jerry,

I need to figure out how to cure that pesky .31 verticle stringing tho. 😛

Regards,

Roachcreek

Well, aren’t we getting cocky now!? 😆

I think you’ll be happy to repeat that .31 “error” a few times!

RC…YEAH, i wanns see you figure that lil .31″ problem out…..lol. Too funny

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Tof and Jerry,

I need to figure out how to cure that pesky .31 verticle stringing tho. 😛

Regards,

Roachcreek

Damned GREAT grouping the way it is. It seems good were it is. 4000 psi fill, 2 shots side by side at 100 yrds. Can’t ask for more than that. And i don’t see you missing an elk twice in a row. If you do, just STOP, pack up your gear and go home and leave the 3rd MERCY shot for yourself……lol. Sorry RC, had to get you back…lol

Seriously though, thats some good shooting and it speaks volumes about your gun and your casting ability.

quote roachcreek:

Jerry,

Your right, every sport and every rifle has different demands and uses.

With my 45/100 Sharps Borschardt and my 45/100 Shilo #1 Sporting Rifle, I shot 10 shot groups.

The matches I shot in, I shot 2 foulers and 10 shots for score at 400 yards, 600 yards, 900 yards and 1000 yards. We cleaned between every distance, the two foulers were sighters and since we were using black powder, we needed to foul the bore, for a shot from a clean bore went high. The ten shot groups were not only a test of our rifle and ammunition, but a test of our bullet lube softening the black powder fouling.

So ten shots was an indicator of a match stage shot count.

A big game rifle is usually shot for 3 shot groups, because in the field hunting big game, that is a typical shot string.

Varmit rilfes where you set and shoot are shot in 5 shot groups, because shooting rodents involves more shots.

With my Ranger 45, where I fill to either 4000 or 4500 PSI fills, I get two and three shots respectively, so yes, that is an accurate account of what to expect.

Shooting tethered is a good indicator of your rifle and ammo quality and the compatibility of the two, but for real field hunting situations it just gives a few indicators, two shot or three shot groups give atrue indication of the effectiveness of your tune.

Can you just imagine, shooting two shots at an elk and missing, and having it stand and look at you while you dismount your backpack, pull out your Pygmee or Guppy bottle attach it and fill, then disconnect the bottle, reload and fire two more shots.

On second thought that should be stage one at a timed practical big bore air rifle match. 💡

Regards,

Roachcreek

My range, 50 and 100 yard targets.

i was thinking of getting a paint ball tank 4500psi then put it in a back pack and just run tethered up to the bottle 😉 😆 😆

if the gun just droped a 100-150 psi down on each shot that would be killer !

that way you could drill that Elk with many how powered shots ! 😈 😯 if needed :4: :horse: :thumb:

quote Jerry:

Both! 😆

1 more shot would have been fine or 3 more would have been fine also, it just changes the basis of comparison. 2 shots untethered for a gun set to deliver 2 consistent shots is a valid group. A gun set to max one shot power ought to be judged on how well it can deliver that one shot. A gun set for two similar shots ought to be able to do something close to your picture. A gun set for 3 shots is only set for 3 if it can deliver a 3 shot group…

Some folks get bent double screaming about only 5 shot groups count or you really need ten shots etc. and they totally miss the point of accurate shooting. I’m fairly confident that you’re not going to put a group in an Elk! If you shoot twice, it’s because you screwed up the first shot or the Elk moved, a twig got in the way…. The point is that if you need to take a second shot, it will be just as important to be able to place it as the first attempt. It is highly unlikely that you’ll be needing to or have the opportunity to take a 3rd, 4th and 5th shot. I expect you’ll have the chance to refill the gun if 3-5 are required!

I’ve shot an assload of “trophy” groups from 3 to 30 shots but the only thing I know for sure is that someone will always have a reason to second guess no matter how good any particular group is! At this point, I’m convinced that the best “group” is a single shot that lands where the shooter called it, before the shot.

ya a lot of it is knowing how the gun shoots coming down on pressure , in order to accuratly shoot as the shot count goes up on a single charge going down in pressure ,for big bore guns

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