Received my "Knock-off" Atlas Bipod today !
Got the Atlas-copy/knock-off/whatever Bipod today. I haven´t hold an original Atlas in my hand so i don´t know exactly how it feels and so but this one looks exactly like it does on those Greenbase pics and is a well made piece as it seems. Definitely worth the price. As i said before i only have good experience with Greenbase (have bought loads of stuff from them in more than a dozen occasion) and the Bipod in question is as described and well worth those few bux it cost.
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Ville, this thread alone shows you play fast and loose with your words then make lame excuses for them. As if words matter not, so if liar is to harsh of a description for you will “fibber” work?
And as far as answering questions, why should I humor you? Well because I’m a generous sort and feeling charitable so I will.
No, I have not down loaded music or movies or games in any way other than paying for them though Amazon or iTunes. Sorry. Again it’s the character thing, oh there was a time I could have cared less but that changed when God changed my heart.
So now please entertain me with an answer to my question;
If someone stole your best rifle, then presented it to me, as stolen from you and at a price 20% of retail, would you be okay with me buying it because it suited my needs and budget?
And let’s do it this way, you chose to not honestly answer the question above then just pass on posting anymore to this thread. You can bow out with some dignity.
And no – i don´t need to defend myself against Kasey. I just got pissed when he accused me-and everyone else who buys copies – for the lack of character.
You really have a knack for lying don’t you. I clearly stated that it was different to unknowingly buy a counterfeit. My issue is with people like you that knowingly buy one, then brag about it and justify it because it saves YOU MONEY. With no regard or worries about the real cost to the authentic manufacturer or the criminality of it.
Your mad and your going to share this with all European forums?
So what?
You’ve already made other threats and it worries me not, I suspect your regarded about the same everywhere you go.
Knack of lying ?? Are you stupid , i mean for real ?? Of course i bought it since it was ten times cheaper and almost as good as your Atlas – definitely not ten times worse. Why wouldn´t i ?? Authentic manufacturer ?? Owner rights ?? Again – go fuck yourself. You still haven´t answered the question whether you´ve ever downloaded copyrighted stuff or not. We both know the answer to that and yeah, everyone does that, but you´re the high and mighty Advocate of the righteousness here. Hypocrate of the highest order.
And me being mad ?? I´m not mad-at all. Just pissed since a little hypocrate of an insect is trying to manipulate the situation and people to feel bad since they bough a product,easily worth double its price in function, instead than your overpriced counterpart .A whiny little girl like you won´t make me mad – just pissed.
And no – i don´t need to defend myself against Kasey. I just got pissed when he accused me-and everyone else who buys copies – for the lack of character. There´s nothing to defend against there. Just because an ignorant nobody with “airgunitis” is in a mood for a fight ,after a couple of Beers on the Friday evening , and thinks a mans character is based on whether he buys a knock-off or not doesn´t make it a fact in life.
This whole thing is blown to something overly stupid and the way we behave here is nothing less than pitiful. This will make me and Kasey look bad and you look like the fucking retard you really are so in your case there´s nothing lost here but i think it´s about time to lay this shit to the rest before it gets really nasty. And ,Mr Scandinavian businessman, you´re so wrong about this being good advertizing – for anyone involved.
You are such a moron and you keep coming up with poor excuses for your bad behavior in buying illegal goods smuggled into your country. The bottom line here is you are a piece of whale shit at the bottom of the ocean and you’ll never understand the situation here because you were never taught moral values with regard to decency and respect. The world does not revolve around you but your patents never taught you that. Therefore we can never expect you to understand that what you did and are doing was wrong. We understand your short coming and lack of moral turpitude.
And lastly, now we see that you think all Americans here are “‘inbred hicks’ who all drink beer on a Friday night. You know so little of American life. And even those so-called “hicks’ you denigrate, know right from wrong where you clearly do not. Furthermore, you have to remember that if it wasn’t for the ones you call American “inbred hicks” which you so wrongfully criticize that you’d be speaking German today. There are tens-of-thousands of American “inbred hicks” burried all over Europe who fought for your freedom and in your case, your illicit activity.
You sir are slime.
You just can´t stop do you? My “patents” thought me a lots of things about values and such. They also thought me,together with the School and all , how to spell in my native language. Something you seem to have missed. When have i ever called all the Americans as Beer drinking Hicks ?? Your “airgunitis” (called syphilis here,in your case) has really got into your brain when you think that people talking to you talk to all Americans as one. Dumb twit…
I have nothing but great respect to those Americans, Australians, Canadians, English etc. soldiers who died in WW II but whether they did or not wouldn´t have any effect to what language i speak today. Study your history you ignorant prick, and you´ll soon learn what actually happened during the War between Finland/Russia/Germany. Your ignorance and plain stupidity is none but yours to bear. Don´t try to blame the Americans as whole. I have lots of American friends – both here at TAG and throughout the US -and also a great deal of relatives living in both USA and Canada.
You are a sorry figure – now go back to beating the wife or did the Bitch bite back ??
Ville
And no – i don´t need to defend myself against Kasey. I just got pissed when he accused me-and everyone else who buys copies – for the lack of character.
You really have a knack for lying don’t you. I clearly stated that it was different to unknowingly buy a counterfeit. My issue is with people like you that knowingly buy one, then brag about it and justify it because it saves YOU MONEY. With no regard or worries about the real cost to the authentic manufacturer or the criminality of it.
Your mad and your going to share this with all European forums?
So what?
You’ve already made other threats and it worries me not, I suspect your regarded about the same everywhere you go.
And no – i don´t need to defend myself against Kasey. I just got pissed when he accused me-and everyone else who buys copies – for the lack of character. There´s nothing to defend against there. Just because an ignorant nobody with “airgunitis” is in a mood for a fight ,after a couple of Beers on the Friday evening , and thinks a mans character is based on whether he buys a knock-off or not doesn´t make it a fact in life.
This whole thing is blown to something overly stupid and the way we behave here is nothing less than pitiful. This will make me and Kasey look bad and you look like the fucking retard you really are so in your case there´s nothing lost here but i think it´s about time to lay this shit to the rest before it gets really nasty. And ,Mr Scandinavian businessman, you´re so wrong about this being good advertizing – for anyone involved.
You are such a moron and you keep coming up with poor excuses for your bad behavior in buying illegal goods smuggled into your country. The bottom line here is you are a piece of whale shit at the bottom of the ocean and you’ll never understand the situation here because you were never taught moral values with regard to decency and respect. The world does not revolve around you but your patents never taught you that. Therefore we can never expect you to understand that what you did and are doing was wrong. We understand your short coming and lack of moral turpitude.
And lastly, now we see that you think all Americans here are “‘inbred hicks’ who all drink beer on a Friday night. You know so little of American life. And even those so-called “hicks’ you denigrate, know right from wrong where you clearly do not. Furthermore, you have to remember that if it wasn’t for the ones you call American “inbred hicks” which you so wrongfully criticize that you’d be speaking German today. There are tens-of-thousands of American “inbred hicks” burried all over Europe who fought for your freedom and in your case, your illicit activity.
You sir are slime.
You´re such sorry piece of shit there´s no way to make you get the point. Truth hurts ? I don´t really know – do you ?? You haven´t come with anything truthfull thus far but i´ll report back when you do and if it indeed hurts. In the meantime i´ll continue supporting the illegal activity in my ignorance whenever i feel like it and also miss-spell words every now and then – which i beg your pardon for but English isn´t my native language so you just have to excuse me for such overtramp. I do speak 5 languages, quite fluently, and i wonder how many an inbred hick like yourself is able to master ? Was that really the worst insult you could come up with ? Make fun of the fact i misspelled the Moron ??
And no – i don´t need to defend myself against Kasey. I just got pissed when he accused me-and everyone else who buys copies – for the lack of character. There´s nothing to defend against there. Just because an ignorant nobody with “airgunitis” is in a mood for a fight ,after a couple of Beers on the Friday evening , and thinks a mans character is based on whether he buys a knock-off or not doesn´t make it a fact in life.
This whole thing is blown to something overly stupid and the way we behave here is nothing less than pitiful. This will make me and Kasey look bad and you look like the fucking retard you really are so in your case there´s nothing lost here but i think it´s about time to lay this shit to the rest before it gets really nasty. And ,Mr Scandinavian businessman, you´re so wrong about this being good advertizing – for anyone involved.
You doing business with Swede´s ?? Buying sexual favors from young Boys ,thru Internet, ain´t “doing business” , Buddy Boy.
And Kasey, are you illiterate too?? Calling me a liar ? When i said i wouldn’t engage into this arguement i meant to this arguement with you you stupid shit. Off course i know i started the thread, i’m not a moroon like MG who just jumps into threads without knowing what’s going on to just pick up a fight.
And when i was in the market for Atlas for the first time i didn’t even think about asking someone to send me those from US since those were a restricted item – now i’ve also learned that even scopes and such fall into that chategory so i won’t be asking anyone to send those over either.
And Kasey – i’ll make this all up to you since my lack of character and thieving ways have hurted your business so badly : You’ll get free PR from me when i link to this thread on all the European Gun Forums i’m a member on. Most already think your product is overpriced anyway but it’s always good to know the “man” behind the product,right?
Doc is right about me considering buying one of your Atlas’s thru US but now you’ve really pissed me off. I’ll never,ever buy anything that comes from your Factory. Not one thing.
UGIMJ is right – your whining ways is not good for your business and you’re lucky you have that contract. I don’t think they know what a whining little bitch you really are though… Fucking hypocrate who’s never downloaded a movie or a song/record while knowing all about those same owner rights you want to protect.
And did i mention : Fuck you MG !
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ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Got you, you dumb MOFO. The truth hurts doesn’t it. We can all see it does.
What is a “moroon”? OH!! You mean a moron. Spelling is part of life and moron’s don’t spell correctly so if the shoe fits, wear it and you wear it well. I won’t even get into the other misspelled words proving you are in fact a lowlife moron or ‘moroon’ in your case. You have no argument for your illegal activity and you stoop to child pornography to debate the issue which further adds to your moral character or lack of.
Furthermore, you’re such a moron that you don’t even remember the thread well enough to be posting right now as we debated this issue months ago. You and one other pinhead were the only two trying to defend bad behavior. No one is picking a fight. You’re just too ignorant to understand that what you did supports illegal activity and was illegal in itself just purchasing the item.
Let’s face reality, what I stated earlier is the truth; you are lower than whale shit at the bottom of the ocean for your actions. There is no defense and you try to defend yourself and do a poor job of it. You keep digging yourself deeper and deeper but that’s what a moron does.
Additionally, regardless what you say about the Atlas bipod, positive or negative, you are advertising his products and to that end please be sure you spell the name of his product correctly. All publicity is good publicity whether good or bad so go waste your time, moron or is it “moroon”.
What a loser!
Merry Christmas to all!!
Of course he has. And so he should. It wouldn’t hurt to have a modicum of people skills before engaging to an downright fight on the Internet though. Over a thread more than half a year old? Not the wisest move in my mind but what do i know about PR.
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MG – you just go fuck yourself. I wouldn’t last in US?? Really-fuck off you idiot.
You doing business with Swede´s ?? Buying sexual favors from young Boys ,thru Internet, ain´t “doing business” , Buddy Boy.
And Kasey, are you illiterate too?? Calling me a liar ? When i said i wouldn’t engage into this arguement i meant to this arguement with you you stupid shit. Off course i know i started the thread, i’m not a moroon like MG who just jumps into threads without knowing what’s going on to just pick up a fight.
And when i was in the market for Atlas for the first time i didn’t even think about asking someone to send me those from US since those were a restricted item – now i’ve also learned that even scopes and such fall into that chategory so i won’t be asking anyone to send those over either.
And Kasey – i’ll make this all up to you since my lack of character and thieving ways have hurted your business so badly : You’ll get free PR from me when i link to this thread on all the European Gun Forums i’m a member on. Most already think your product is overpriced anyway but it’s always good to know the “man” behind the product,right?
Doc is right about me considering buying one of your Atlas’s thru US but now you’ve really pissed me off. I’ll never,ever buy anything that comes from your Factory. Not one thing.
UGIMJ is right – your whining ways is not good for your business and you’re lucky you have that contract. I don’t think they know what a whining little bitch you really are though… Fucking hypocrate who’s never downloaded a movie or a song/record while knowing all about those same owner rights you want to protect.
And did i mention : Fuck you MG !
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He has every right to defend his company and his products…and I commend him for his courage. Now I would like to go one step further and congratulate him on his public relations. Calm down and think. Nothing has gone too far at this point and there is no need for it.
Merry Christmas to all!!
I think your goal here is awareness. Let’s not let things not get out of hand. Your point has been made and I’m sure MANY will side with you. Your goal however is not to make enemies here on this forum or anywhere else for that matter. Ville is a good man…and does have a heart (whether he shows it or not). The fact that he asked for assistance in getting your product is a step in direction that is to your benefit. Let’s not forget that. He WANTS to buy your product…now more then ever. Why? Because he can see YOUR POINT OF VIEW. You made your peace, now let’s make nice and give others a chance to do whatever they feel is right FOR THEM. I’m sure there are some that can barely afford to start this hobby. They budget for months to make their purchases…you will be hard pressed to get them to spend $300 when there is a $50 option that can get the job done. But the majority can buy your product. Some will and some won’t. Conduct yourself with patience and you will win in the long run.
He is not making enemies but standing up for his livelihood and patents as any businessman would. Anyone with character and backbone would understand and see that. The problem is in this world today there are people who counterfeit goods and sell them to morally bankrupt individuals who have no morals and see nothing wrong with purchasing illegally produced goods. The bottom line here is he bought an illegal item that would have been confiscated by customs IF customs knew. So, he is trafficking in illegal merchandise. That is the bottom line and morally bankrupt people don’t see the error in their ways as it suits their needs so the hell with the manufacturer who owns the patent; screw him because I just bought a similar item for 20% of the price is their mantra.
What happened to one of Hoot’s post?
Did someone deleted it?
Dr. Steele, you are a wise man. My mentor.
Jp
Kasey
I think your goal here is awareness. Let’s not let things not get out of hand. Your point has been made and I’m sure MANY will side with you. Your goal however is not to make enemies here on this forum or anywhere else for that matter. Ville is a good man…and does have a heart (whether he shows it or not). The fact that he asked for assistance in getting your product is a step in direction that is to your benefit. Let’s not forget that. He WANTS to buy your product…now more then ever. Why? Because he can see YOUR POINT OF VIEW. You made your peace, now let’s make nice and give others a chance to do whatever they feel is right FOR THEM. I’m sure there are some that can barely afford to start this hobby. They budget for months to make their purchases…you will be hard pressed to get them to spend $300 when there is a $50 option that can get the job done. But the majority can buy your product. Some will and some won’t. Conduct yourself with patience and you will win in the long run.
Once there’s a stolen copy that works ok, for a fraction of price of the original – which by the way is ridiculously overpriced here – i’ll buy it to fill my Bipoding needs. Maybe because i’m greedy , maybe because i want my money’s worth or maybe just to piss you off. OR all of those things combined.
Are you telling me you’d still pay 1600€ for a gun if there was a copy for sale for a 160€ , a copy that with minor tweaking and an extra investment of a hefty sum of 2€ would work nearly as good as the original item and last for at least half as long ?? Please …
You do realize that has nothing to do with my character. Many on this site has a rags to riches hero story. Wanna hear mine?
The Atlas is one beautiful Bipod and product and actually very fairly priced in US but here in Sweden it’s so ridiculously overpriced that the only way i would ever even consider buying one is if those were made of Gold.
Now – put your hand on your heart , take a look around you and everything you own and tell me nothing there isn’t a copy or a knock-off of some kind and that you knew that while you bought it. You’re dealing with the ‘its all about me’ generation.
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Ville, I’m sorry that everyone has to read this but you are a lowlife piece of whale shit at the bottom of the ocean. You have no backbone, are morally bankrupt and a disgrace to the Swedish people. And yes, you flaming asshole, I do a lot of business in Sweden and you, toilet breath are a waste of a human life who wouldn’t last one minute here in the USA.
And, you’re a lying piece of shit too because anyone on this forum would be more than willing to assist you in buying a genuine model at USA pricing plus shipping of about $40 to Sweden. You complain of the high prices in Sweden but you would rather have the knockoff because it suits your needs and budget and use the inflated Swedish pricing as the justification for being morally bankrupt.
And to Kasey – you’re dealing with a generation of morally bankrupt individuals who would sell their own mother and see nothing wrong with it as long as it benefited them in some fashion. You’re dealing with the ‘it’s all about me’ generation so they don’t see the error in their thinking and were never taught morals so you’re spinning your wheels.
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Honestly answer to what questions ?? Give it a rest now,little Girl. It´s over and done with . I´m a dirty liar, a greedy bastard without neither character nor any morals. But i owe few pairs of Atlas knock-off´s that accomplishes everything your originals are able to accomplish so i can live with the shame. I bow in front of your wisdom and neverending righteousness. You´re a man of honour – a real American Dream and i´m not really worthy.