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Time to test new Pellets !!

I got a Tin (or actually a Plastic Box) of Hurricane .25 cal. 30 ge pellets to try out. Really good looking Pills made to Hurricane Air Arms specifications and they resemble Daysate Rangemaster. I want to go Pellet testing right now but it´s dark, cold , humid and very windy. Maybe tomorrow.

I´ll , however , send a Tin of these to Whineyman so he can measure and test them since he´s much more qualified than i am. My approach is far less scientific : Shoot them and measure them Groups. The old way from those days before the Berlin Wall came down .. 😯

I actually inspected every single one of those 275 Pellets that came in the Box and there is zero percent distorted skirts. The skirts are kinda thick and these Pills are actually called ” split skirt” , whatever that means.
Here´s the actual Info once again :
What’s new about the Hurricane 18 grain lead Exterminator air bullet?
1. It is made on a single die system and the wire feed is controlled by a laser micrometer, so every one is identical with minimal weight variation from batch to batch.
2. The unique patented split skirt allows it to adapt to the various types of rifling providing better accuracy and increases muzzle velocity because of lower friction through the barrel.
3. Its bullet shape has a superior ballistic coefficient which provides greater downrange energy.
4. The presentation of the Exterminator in its robust packaging ensures that you will not be throwing away distorted pellets because of cheap inferior packaging which should be a major consideration when assessing the cost per pellet at face value.
5. The formula used for the premium lead alloy reduces the need for frequent cleaning of the barrel.

These are found in .22 & .25 cal. In .22 there are three different weights to choose from ; 18gr, 25gr and 37.5gr . I need to get the Doc to test those .22´s in his Cricket and EdGun.

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quote rkr:

quote synopsys:

Choked at the wrong end???

Before or after machining for the transfer port? :mrgreen:

Are the BSA barrels tapered and choked? 😕

OK, machined at the wrong end if you want to nitpick. BSA barrels are advertised as evenly tapering but if you push a pellet through the last 20-30mm is the hard to push part.

That’s nothing – I know a guy who’s brand new Hatsan had a Barrel mounted on backwards so the choke was at the breech end. It was threaded in wrong ends so the Turks probably had the barrel backwards in a lathe- which is understandeable since there are total of two (2) ends on a barrel blank… 😉

Needless to tell how that rifle shot….

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quote rkr:

quote Sir Ville:

quote Wingman NZ:

You are right sir anville my finnish blacksmith friend.. that pellet design is very reliant on velocity and twist rate to shoot well. They often need a faster than the norm twist to really group well due to the length of the pellet. For this reason they often shoot best from 1-16 twist bsa barrels rather than the normal 1-17.5″ twist l/w..

I´ve been thinking , which worries me a bit since i seldom practice such Jovial waste of time – activity ,what if i ordered one of those BSA-barrel blanks for my Bug ? OG seems to be keen on them and i can read between the lines that you wouldn´t spit on one either would you happen to find one on your way to the friendly local Coffee Shop for your daily dose of Caffein – that sweet Poison that will put you in an early Grave , not that i much care. Just stay alive untill we get some real info out of your upcoming Pellet/Dildo test.

After all people in-the-know seem to praise those barrels and some guys even buy old BSA springers to get a hold on them barrels.
What´s the deal with those BSA barrels ? ❓ ❓ ❓

Hammer forged and in general good quality barrels. You can get blanks from John Knibbs. It’s worth noting that newer .25 barrels are not as tight as the old ones. .25 BSA Lonestars seem to be winning Dutch 100M competitions all the time. Of course there are exceptions, I had one with choke at the wrong end and another with off center crown.

Hi RKR, my wiley countryman!

Yeah, i know Knibbs keeps them in stock. Already mailed him yesterday with a couple of questions about that .25 barrel. It’s out of stock though but should be on the shelf again by the early February.

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quote synopsys:

Choked at the wrong end???

Before or after machining for the transfer port? :mrgreen:

Are the BSA barrels tapered and choked? 😕

OK, machined at the wrong end if you want to nitpick. BSA barrels are advertised as evenly tapering but if you push a pellet through the last 20-30mm is the hard to push part.

Choked at the wrong end???

Before or after machining for the transfer port? :mrgreen:

Are the BSA barrels tapered and choked? 😕

quote Sir Ville:

quote Wingman NZ:

You are right sir anville my finnish blacksmith friend.. that pellet design is very reliant on velocity and twist rate to shoot well. They often need a faster than the norm twist to really group well due to the length of the pellet. For this reason they often shoot best from 1-16 twist bsa barrels rather than the normal 1-17.5″ twist l/w..

I´ve been thinking , which worries me a bit since i seldom practice such Jovial waste of time – activity ,what if i ordered one of those BSA-barrel blanks for my Bug ? OG seems to be keen on them and i can read between the lines that you wouldn´t spit on one either would you happen to find one on your way to the friendly local Coffee Shop for your daily dose of Caffein – that sweet Poison that will put you in an early Grave , not that i much care. Just stay alive untill we get some real info out of your upcoming Pellet/Dildo test.

After all people in-the-know seem to praise those barrels and some guys even buy old BSA springers to get a hold on them barrels.
What´s the deal with those BSA barrels ? ❓ ❓ ❓

Hammer forged and in general good quality barrels. You can get blanks from John Knibbs. It’s worth noting that newer .25 barrels are not as tight as the old ones. .25 BSA Lonestars seem to be winning Dutch 100M competitions all the time. Of course there are exceptions, I had one with choke at the wrong end and another with off center crown.

Smallville.. I drink very little of the muddy cafinated poison myself.. my enjoyment comes from the art of making it.

BSA have always carried a good name but like most good things demand increases and quality falls. Ive seen both match grade and fire stoker grade from BSA but when you get a good one they are amazing. They have different shaped lands and deeper rifling grooves than that of L/W and they have some aggressivly tight chokes with faster twist rates but they seem to shoot with the best of them.

So do it! BSA your filthy Bug! If you dont try it youll never know.. just like that time you were not sure if you liked boys or girls.. :biggrinn:

quote Wingman NZ:

You are right sir anville my finnish blacksmith friend.. that pellet design is very reliant on velocity and twist rate to shoot well. They often need a faster than the norm twist to really group well due to the length of the pellet. For this reason they often shoot best from 1-16 twist bsa barrels rather than the normal 1-17.5″ twist l/w..

I´ve been thinking , which worries me a bit since i seldom practice such Jovial waste of time – activity ,what if i ordered one of those BSA-barrel blanks for my Bug ? OG seems to be keen on them and i can read between the lines that you wouldn´t spit on one either would you happen to find one on your way to the friendly local Coffee Shop for your daily dose of Caffein – that sweet Poison that will put you in an early Grave , not that i much care. Just stay alive untill we get some real info out of your upcoming Pellet/Dildo test.

After all people in-the-know seem to praise those barrels and some guys even buy old BSA springers to get a hold on them barrels.
What´s the deal with those BSA barrels ? ❓ ❓ ❓

You are right sir anville my finnish blacksmith friend.. that pellet design is very reliant on velocity and twist rate to shoot well. They often need a faster than the norm twist to really group well due to the length of the pellet. For this reason they often shoot best from 1-16 twist bsa barrels rather than the normal 1-17.5″ twist l/w..

quote MrMel:

Ive shot the .22 of those in both my Edgun and FX, barely hitting the wall at 25 meters… I.e. Worst pellet ive ever tried to this date.

Was that a wide Wall ?? 😯
If you just shot them at the speed you shoot your regular brand in those guns then no wonder. Due it’s totally different form it’s essential you find the right speed for that pellet.
Never mind – if they don’t work who cares. The search will continue. I have no financial, emotional nor sexual interrest on those pellets nor the maker of them.
One thing is for sure ; I want to find a Pellet in uniform quality and with good accuracy.

quote RIDETOEAT:

They already look to have a better and more uniform finish than the JSB’s. I’ll keep my fingers crossed they do well.

Yep. Me too. I think it´s tiresome and irritating when the variation in a Tin of pellets is what it is today. Ridiculous when you take the price of them Marquee Pellets into account. I can buy good .22LR ammo at the same price – or actually a bit under in some cases – i´m forced to pay for so-so quality chunks of Lead. How´s that even possible ?? A .22LR cartridge contains a brass casing, primer,powder and 40gr of that same damned Lead. Unbelievable …. Somebody´s getting very rich somewhere while i , a poor Finnish immigrant in Sweden, have to sell my house, my cars and even my weapons to keep up with the neverending search of a good, uniform Batch of Lead Pebbles. We Airgunners are not an overly bright breed it seems … :angrymob:

Ive shot the .22 of those in both my Edgun and FX, barely hitting the wall at 25 meters… I.e. Worst pellet ive ever tried to this date.

quote Wingman NZ:

Hey hey whats all this whineyman business Sir Vildo Baggens?
Those pellets look promising indeed! They look a lot like these lead free zink thunderbolts too..
http://m.ebay.com/itm/130939214175?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1

My .25 loves the daystate 36gr dildo design so I say with more speed these might be even better!

O.K, Wingclipped – test them and let us know how they perform. I´ll test them in a Bug .25 in different velocities to see and find the best velocity. It would be nice if those Dildo´s like 280 mps + since that would pack a good punch they weighing 30 grains.
Those are priced quite fairly too at 145 SEK / 275 pcs & the same price for .22´s although theres 400 of them in a .22 Box.
I just want to find a good pellet in uniform quality , if that´s even possible these days. Tobbe at HAA (Hells Angels Adoptee´s or Hurricane Air Arms. Not sure which one) will get one of these Dildo´s in his left Nostril if they won´t perform … :Fishing Hole:

Skål! I know EG barrels are superbly picky for Pellets since the barrel is designed around them JSB´s at a specific speed – thus i´ll test these on the Cricket.
I´ll, of course, test them in different velocities as well. Thought about 265, 270,275,280 and 285 mps to see what gives. There´s no use to just shoot a couple of Pills thru a barrel, at X-speed , and leave it at that.
Nevertheless Mr. Wing-clipped will get a Box of them for real pellet testing. He´ll test the chew density (whether Al Dente or not), if they survive 24 hrs in one of his home brewed Macchiatos and of course the all- important Kiwi Bird penetration test at 105 meters.

Tried them in my .25 EG with not so good result. They make a good expansion and à strong “smlock” sound. Never shoot them since the first try….

The .22 version worked ok in ST barrel (fx Royal)

Skål!

They already look to have a better and more uniform finish than the JSB’s. I’ll keep my fingers crossed they do well.

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