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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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quote Urgirlinmyjetta:

Fva what you fail to realize is if you ordered a brand-new gun you should have the Slits below the rail to put the mags in.

Hard to get when the gun is delivered before you come up with the idea to make groves to accommodate the mags…

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quote avenger71:

quote Dr.KrillE:

quote avenger71:

😯 In this forum complain of Edward
Go to hell
I do not know why???

Now you’re beginning to make sense 😉

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👿 Yes I am well
I paid for the distributor in my sons reportedly Money
I did not find non-verbal

Sad to hear, hope it works out for the best…

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quote donnyfl:

+1

Finally someone get’s sniperqty!

quote Dr.KrillE:

quote avenger71:

😯 In this forum complain of Edward
Go to hell
I do not know why???

Now you’re beginning to make sense 😉

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When you lose money will become the third 😆

Fva what you fail to realize is if you ordered a brand-new gun you should have the Slits below the rail to put the mags in.

quote Dr.KrillE:

quote avenger71:

😯 In this forum complain of Edward
Go to hell
I do not know why???

Now you’re beginning to make sense 😉

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👿 Yes I am well
I paid for the distributor in my sons reportedly Money
I did not find non-verbal

LOL, ……what was he trying to say ?

+1

Finally someone get’s sniperqty!

quote Dr.KrillE:

quote avenger71:

😯 In this forum complain of Edward
Go to hell
I do not know why???

Now you’re beginning to make sense 😉

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quote avenger71:

😯 In this forum complain of Edward
Go to hell
I do not know why???

Now you’re beginning to make sense 😉

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Yeah, but not so sure those depressions designed for holding mags are really a issue, particularly as to being a frankedstien gun.
He oughta stay on point rather than trying to throw anything he can and seeing what sticks.

MachineGun can piss people off because of the type of language he’s choosing to use,……but in the end of the day he sure has a point.
A 2 grand gun should be perfect.

😯 In this forum complain of Edward
Go to hell
I do not know why???

Ed’s customer service has been a problem for years. I’ve been thinking that he’s one person business, and hard to offer such service.
But if I were him to sell many guns in US, I would contribute some back to the community because if I know if I don’t, I will be out of business one day if other competitors have. such as Cricket is catching up so close ans sell so many of them here. Also It’s better to have all the Edgun parts avail. in the US.

Expressing facts is always better than arguing.

Me and MG have had our disagreements but I agree with his point here…when I got my edgun R3 (it had and still does) the rocking issue were the gun would move around in the stock…which is why Ed made the change to add another locking position on the rear of the gun…but now the new guys get a better secure gun but I have to live with the fact my gun rocks back and forth….I don’t agree with that…plus when I noticed the problem I sent Ed a message asking if I can order another stock and he never replied…I emailed tony and he messaged me back saying id need to ask Ed because he hasn’t got a spare stock in years….so it’s a cycle that only ends with Ed not responding.

THE END! :3:

The mans got a point!!! 2k$. Is a lot of money for a gun that doesn’t function properly.

The man may be harsh and a bit abrasive but he drives a good point. Just something to think about while your waiting for Ed to fix your f’d up gun.

I feel all of this could of been handle a little better but that’s life everyone deals differently.

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