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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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Hi Ed,

since I know you are keeping an eye on this thread, please allow me a question (and sorry to MG of using his thread).

Many people collect airguns, while I see this quite normal for springers, I have some doubts about pcps.

Almost every pcp manufacturer puts a date/year on the air cylinder and depending on that date there is an expiration date of the cylinder, after that date it shouldn’t be filled anymore without being first inspected or replaced (with supporting documentation). I suspect there is a specific legislation concerning safety on this varying from country to country.

What is the expiration date of your cylinders (how long are they valid) and will you offer or do you already offer an ispection or replacement service of the cylinders?

It could easily be that some shooting clubs don’t allow to shot pcps with expired cylinders and it would be really sad to see that our beloved weapons became just “decorative weapons”, you know that story about “broken dreams” πŸ˜€ .

Thanks in advance for your help and ATB

No this was a R3 sorry was just really commenting on the fact that yellow members are aware of the issues and that some of the issues that arent new issues but issues people originally just accepted and or found their own way to fix. Maybe posting it on the FrankEdstein Edgun thread wasnt the best place to post it but the comment about uninformed opinions just got to me.

quote ironcross6921:

It cocked extremely rough and upon removed of the breech there was the reason, machining where the bolt rides was extremely rough and yes I did try lubing the bolt and yes it did help but it was still rough and I had to relube it alot and it constantly oozed lube.

Dang the model has only been out a week or so and that gun exchanged hands twice already ? 😯 😯

It cocked extremely rough and upon removed of the breech there was the reason, machining where the bolt rides was extremely rough and yes I did try lubing the bolt and yes it did help but it was still rough and I had to relube it alot and it constantly oozed lube.

quote ironcross6921:

Actually I’m also onthe yellow and I do have first hand knowledge but since I bought mine from another member I cant really complain to Ed about can I? Even though I bought it 5 days after he got it from tony. So I sold it.

Lets here your story…

Why you not keep it? that was a quick turn around…

Ed its quite easy to fix this problem. Obviously MG doesn’t want to give up the gun otherwise he would of already taken one of the offers afforded to him. Send a working R3m in the caliber that he bought to tony, Have tony swap out the stocks. Done Deal . WIN WIN for all. he keeps his stock and gets a working R3M, You get the lemon back Like new condition. Then we can all put this to rest. And it will make you look good ed.

Actually I’m also onthe yellow and I do have first hand knowledge but since I bought mine from another member I cant really complain to Ed about can I? Even though I bought it 5 days after he got it from tony. So I sold it.

Sounds like a personal agenda, Machine Gun. Why don’t you copy Ed’s response from here and post it on the Yellow; plenty of whiners there without any first-hand knowledge. Or should I do it for you and then some…?

ED,

How do u feel about the Chinese copy of your gun? …. It’s coming!!

Just a thought… I believe every manufacture makes minor changes to their product without notifying consumers. I’m a fan of fx rifles and have seen them make minor changes to their product line without notifying consumers. I’m talking about minor changes too such as shroud modifications, different pressure guages, etc. when fx was transitioning out of their old trugger, I was told once that new triggers weren’t going to be in production for a while but I ended up receiving a gun with new trigger. Granted, that was a product upgrade and not a downgrade as MG is griping about. I also received a lothar walther in my Fx revolution, while I’ve seen people receiving theirs with smooth twist barrels.

We in the USA have a strong sense of entitlement and we are dealing with companies overseas that don’t have the level of customer service that we are accustomed to here in the US. It is what it is.

I would be bummed out, not overly upset, if I was in MG’s position but would never take it to the extent to which he has.

quote Fast and Danger:

quote avenger71:

quote Nomadic Pirate:

avenger71,…shut up already,
you’re just a bubbling fool,
spare us your nonsense, you never, I repeat, never make any sense, don’t waiste space.

You shut up I’m affected
Edward of greed

πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

:14: :14: :14:

I am sorry, but this made me laugh so hard.

πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜€ Laugh Phil beautiful life

quote avenger71:

quote Nomadic Pirate:

avenger71,…shut up already,
you’re just a bubbling fool,
spare us your nonsense, you never, I repeat, never make any sense, don’t waiste space.

You shut up I’m affected
Edward of greed

πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

:14: :14: :14:

I am sorry, but this made me laugh so hard.

quote Nomadic Pirate:

avenger71,…shut up already,
you’re just a bubbling fool,
spare us your nonsense, you never, I repeat, never make any sense, don’t waiste space.

You shut up I’m affected
Edward of greed

quote Sir Ville:

Master of Disaster : Mr. Snipergay . I wish i could understand what the hell heΒ΄s talking about.

Not a Chance brother, not a chance πŸ™„

avenger71,…shut up already,
you’re just a bubbling fool,
spare us your nonsense, you never, I repeat, never make any sense, don’t waiste space.

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