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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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Hi TCMalker,

I am not sure what to say, I am humbled to your sincere apology. I am so glad you were not offended and turned this thread into an ugly battle.

I will repay 10 folds and this may also answer to your prayers too….
My offer is to buy back MG .25 Matador for the exact amount. Since the stock is drilled, I would like MG to include the accessory rail that is already installed. I just don’t want to see holes in the stock. I will send Tony Rudenko a cashier check, he will hold it until I received the gun in Undamaged condition (no abuse, no dropped, ect..) I know the MS system may not function like it should be, I will fine tune to make it work or buy new parts from Ed to make it 100%.
Basically, I am on my own once the gun is in my procession. Ed May or may not help me on this, I don’t know.

There is no reason why I am doing this except the promise I made in the reply I made earlier. I think it is a win win situation and everybody. It is Christmas and I hate to see Brother MG is feeling hate and anger in his heart during these holidays. May God bless him so he can find peace in his heart!!!
If you can get in touch with MG, let him know I am waiting for his answer.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

JohnP

Eduard,,,

Congratulations for new daughter and a very nice and attractive house :8: :8: :8: :8: :8: :8:

I really like the same…but here we have only two or three lakes in Kurdistan…. also the prices of lands are very very hot,,,, if i want to buy a land and build a house it will cost you above than 1 Million USD,,,, here the price is very very high,,,, there are a huge money without a good brain or mentality…. i have my own house Thanks God …. but builded by a company who they spoiled the building and the quality and finishing is really trouble ….. it costed me around $60,000 and i have to payback ($ 25,000) each month $200 to the government as an amortization,,,, so finally it will cost me $ 85,000 ,,,, the land is 200 mtrs,,, and one floor ,,,, this is not bad for me,,, as i am a man that i have a limit income… Thanks God,,,, when ever i get any money i will think of buying another gun…..

anyhow hope you all the best Eduard with your new beautiful house and have a good life with your family and new daughter as well…

Edit;; BTW, how far this house from your Edgun workshop? do you need to drive for a while?

What a lovely house built by yourself. Congrats! Hope you and your family move in smoothly in Jan.
Would you like to share the picture of your pyrolysis boiler? and how do you make the well water to the drinkable water? How big is the house? more than 2000 sf at least? sorry for so many questions, Just love to see more details of the house.

That’s taking shape really nicely Ed, Im guessing those are boat sheds out front?
I hope you left a clear 65 meter space down one side for a home shooting range for the girls 😀

That wood/boiler furnace sounds great. But…do you still have to shovel ashes every day? I did when we had wood fuel heat. Our furnace had a door, and I was the automatic part that threw the wood in when it got low.

The small sheds down on the waterfront. What is their purpose? I notice everyone seems to have at least one, and some have two.

That Lake by your house MUST freeze enough in Winter for you to ice fish. Do you plan to fish out on the ice, or is that what those sheds are for? Can you move them out on the ice for shelter while you fish?

Very nice! Very nice indeed.

H 😯 😯 t

quote Boelick:

I actually feel kind of bad now, while we were wondering where our guns were and emailing you and Tony non stop, you and your wife were having another child. I wish you and your family all the best.

In fact we with my wife just live as usually, the child is not the problem for us, it is just a part of life 🙂

quote charlie101:

Hi Ed,

I’ve been a construction general Contractor for years, but I’ve never built a house for myself. Luck you… Did you build it from the ground up? or just remodel the old house? Bty, nice house.

I always was dreaming about my own house not the appartment, I was dreaming about house at the lake shore. I was looking for the plot of land near the lake for years but failed. I offered good money for owners of the old houses at that place, they refused. Once I was searching the area around my town with the satellite pictures and found en empty place near my summer cottage, just 500 meters away. I went there and found that there was a place 65×35 meters, went to the town house took the person responsible for that to the place and ask the only questiono “Who’s land is this?” He said “Nobody’s”, I prepared all the papers, it took me almost a year and in the end of August of the last year I got the building permiston. For few months Ii managed to took off all the ground, preparet the land and put a concrete basement 10x10x3 meter. In the aprtil fo this year I got a hous which I bought in Finland, made of spruce glued squared timber. The house was set up to the roof for a month and then we have to make all things for it, windows, inside walls, floors, water, etc, etc, etc. I have my own water well 65 meters deep, the heating system with pyrolysis boiler, full automatic (I wonder if it goes to Internet to see the weather forcast 🙂 ). I tried to take all the best I could take. It is very warm house even now, when it is not finished and it should be as in the winter time we can have temperature outside down to minus 40 centigrade (-40 F). I do hope we will be able to move in in the end of January.

Just beautiful! Thanks for the pictures. I’ll study them more in the morning. 🙂

quote tcmalker:

Ed,

my apology still stands, I guess you missed that

Accepted! I understand that people are emotinal and sometimes makes things they wouldn’t do in a normal situations 🙂

Hi Ed,

I’ve been a construction general Contractor for years, but I’ve never built a house for myself. Luck you… Did you build it from the ground up? or just remodel the old house? Bty, nice house.

quote :

Thank you, hopefully she is not our last child, want more

Ill leave that part up to you. 😀 Very nice house by the way. Doing alot of your own work?

I actually feel kind of bad now, while we were wondering where our guns were and emailing you and Tony non stop, you and your wife were having another child. I wish you and your family all the best.

Ed,

my apology still stands, I guess you missed that

quote tcmalker:

Glad to see your greed has afford you a brand new house. You could have left that out and we would have felt some pity for you, but no….you had to brag. But at least now we know why you are so greedy.

Bragging? No way I am enjoying such a reaction of people like you or MG, you are so predictable 🙂 I feel no offence 🙂

quote SECoda:

Ed we would like to see house building pictures if you feel brave. 🙂

Defenetly! 🙂 It is lake shore (VIG lake which is directly connected to the White Sea and Black Sea by the systme of canals, so, theoretically I have possibility to step the boat 40 meters of my house and move to any point of the planet. 300 square meters. Here are few pictures:

quote Boelick:

Ed,

Congratulations on the new daughter.

Thank you, hopefully she is not our last child, want more 🙂

quote Hoot:

Now if Putin and our own Putz, Obama, doesn’t get us all involved in another cold war, perhaps we can enjoy some peace and quiet for awhile!

Now…Ed, will the .30 valve/regulator fit in the .25 Edguns? A few of us are thinking of a .25 Magum to shoot 70+gr. cast slugs for long range field target shooting. A .25 long slender slug would move through the air nicely over long distances if that new .30 valve were to send it on it’s way!

I am afraid everything goes to the hot war, not the cold, but even seeing each other and the battlefield we have to see not the enemies but guys we used to communicate as friends, maybe it will help us all not to turn to the animals.

As for the valve — the same .

Ed

quote knifemaker:

Hoot

We cast E’m! I’m sure either of us could get you a few up to try if you get a proper valve with enough getty-up-go for it! 😀

Knife

My interest is lighter slugs, around 40gr for use on critters close enough for me to see. The 31gr Barracudas do the job, but this Edgun has a lot of power in reserve, and I’m a single shot kind of guy. I’ve got some 48gr and 52gr, but they are a tad large in diameter. Shame…as I have 100 of them total.

I tried to mike the pellets but my Chinese electronic calipers are too loose to get a firm reading, so I’m guessing at the right size. The JSB’s fit fine, as do the .25 Benjamins, but the Barracudas are just a few thousandths large. They go in, but I have to push hard. My barrel must be .251 or very close…

I doubt you cast them that small for what you guys do. If you have any in the .251/.252 diameter, perhaps we can do a trade. My 48’s are a tapered flat tip. The 52gr are a round tip. Both are nice quality, just too big.

quote knifemaker:

Problem is Syn, They aren’t being made any more.
I think Dyotat is making a mold to cast some for testing though.

Knife

There’s that! 😆

But i’ve never seen anyone shoot them even when they were being made. 🙁

I’ve actually seen more “liberals” become “conservatives” in their political viewpoint than the other way around… 😯 😯 😯

To me the most annoying part of liberal thinking is over taxing those that make money. The majority of people who think this tend to go out of their way to not pay any taxes at all… 👿 👿 👿

Don’t get me started on the number of TP members who voted for the NDAA. 👿 👿 👿 They should be called the Toilet Paper party with their distain for the Constitution…

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