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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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Problem is Syn, They aren’t being made any more.
I think Dyotat is making a mold to cast some for testing though.

Knife

quote synopsys:

quote Demp223:

Your typical Obama supporter falls into this category. Blind due to head up deep dark cavity.

Same thing could be said for the typical Republican supporter too.

Tens of millions of Republicans voted for someone who signed into law an “assault” (in the Boxer/Fienstien definition) weapons ban and said it was a good thing. I would bet ALL my airguns that 75% of those “Republicans” at some point in time made fun of the liberal douche bags in California that let Boxer/Fienstien destroy their 2A rights. In the strict definition of the word, hypocrite would apply to every single person who voted for Romney.

Take a look at McCain’s recent moves toward eliminating 2A rights and he was the “Republican” nomination in 2008, ten of millions of “Republicans” voted for that idiot too.

Do you see a trend with the last two “Republican” nominations yet???? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

TPTB won’t need to ban anything outright, the idiots of this country will vote it in voluntarily. There will be no revolution, no “pry it out of my cold dead hands” movement, this last election proved that without a doubt.

Typical Democrat = Typical Republican, or to put it another way, an idiot is an idiot regardless of which party it blindly follows…

Absolutely. There are sheep in both parties. And you’ll rarely see them break Dem ranks. They gladly kiss the ass for the greater good of the Democratic Party when it comes voting time. It’s rare to hear any of them say anything negative about Obama, even now
The Repubs have at least been splintered into various groups which has been their downfall politically.
Many have held their noses( myself included) when stuck with Repub nomination as there is yet to be a viable third party to break up the stranglehold of the Dem/Repubs. McCain is a failure, Romney a joke.
Regardless,We are sucked into a two party machine that only benefits itself in the end.

Ed,

Congratulations on the new daughter.

I’ve asked this before…

Has ANYONE used the Surefire slugs in an Edgun????? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

I understand they might be a bit tight in the lead but that can be fixed. They do so well in a AF rifle I can’t imagine they would be worse in an Edgun… ๐Ÿ˜€

Hoot

We cast E’m! I’m sure either of us could get you a few up to try if you get a proper valve with enough getty-up-go for it! ๐Ÿ˜€

Knife

quote Demp223:

Your typical Obama supporter falls into this category. Blind due to head up deep dark cavity.

Same thing could be said for the typical Republican supporter too.

Tens of millions of Republicans voted for someone who signed into law an “assault” (in the Boxer/Fienstien definition) weapons ban and said it was a good thing. I would bet ALL my airguns that 75% of those “Republicans” at some point in time made fun of the liberal douche bags in California that let Boxer/Fienstien destroy their 2A rights. In the strict definition of the word, hypocrite would apply to every single person who voted for Romney.

Take a look at McCain’s recent moves toward eliminating 2A rights and he was the “Republican” nomination in 2008, ten of millions of “Republicans” voted for that idiot too.

Do you see a trend with the last two “Republican” nominations yet???? ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

TPTB won’t need to ban anything outright, the idiots of this country will vote it in voluntarily. There will be no revolution, no “pry it out of my cold dead hands” movement, this last election proved that without a doubt.

Typical Democrat = Typical Republican, or to put it another way, an idiot is an idiot regardless of which party it blindly follows…

Tedd, what brand/weight ammo will you be practising with for the Field Trials? Where do you get it from?

Every man has the right to enjoy the fruits of his labor. No one here can know how hard Ed had to work to get to where he is today, but I know it was not a short or easy trip!

Congratulations on the new baby Ed!

Now if Putin and our own Putz, Obama, doesn’t get us all involved in another cold war, perhaps we can enjoy some peace and quiet for awhile!

Meanwhile, we can have fun working with the new models of PCP now in our hands.

Now…Ed, will the .30 valve/regulator fit in the .25 Edguns? A few of us are thinking of a .25 Magum to shoot 70+gr. cast slugs for long range field target shooting. A .25 long slender slug would move through the air nicely over long distances if that new .30 valve were to send it on it’s way!

Regards,

H ๐Ÿ˜ฏ ๐Ÿ˜ฏ t

Brother tcmalker….. i lie you too…. we all brother here… we have a good brotherhood between us… we are human and we will do mistakes… but most important you should realize and spot your mistake and correct it…. and there is no perfect one in the world… we will all die and don’t let anyone upset from you… live in peace always with all… this will give you a relax and a healthy life…

quote tcmalker:

To Ed and everybody I do apologize for my bad comment. Myself I have a boy and a girl (9 & 7), so I’m a family guy too!

Hey your prayer worked, so let me try one.

Oh God, please let this Ed thing be over and done! Please let MG and Ed resolve this issue so that no one loses face or pride.

quote tcmalker:

quote Ed:

quote Sir Ville:

There’s only one thing worse than two young kids. That is three young kids. I speak with the voice of experience. Thankfully those young kids are all now in their twenties or i’d just slice my wrists and lay down in a hot tub….

Yep, I have three daughters, 15 years, 5 years and 2 months, one dog, three cats, plus building a new house, which takes a lot of time, power and money ๐Ÿ™‚

Glad to see your greed has afford you a brand new house. You could have left that out and we would have felt some pity for you, but no….you had to brag. But at least now we know why you are so greedy.

Yeah! Fuck Ed for building a business around a popular gun that he spent 10+ years developing and now he is reaping the reward for HARD WORK.

To Ed and everybody I do apologize for my bad comment. Myself I have a boy and a girl (9 & 7), so I’m a family guy too!

Hey your prayer worked, so let me try one.

Oh God, please let this Ed thing be over and done! Please let MG and Ed resolve this issue so that no one loses face or pride.

since i joined this forum, from yesterday till today i can see a holy word that is very high value and very great word for me, made me happy and feel relax when i see or read this word,,,,, this is a holy word(Thanks God), this word i like it much much than other words… i like you guys my brothers …. Ville… Trygve…. Secoda …. and other brothers that have appreciation or they are thankful for their God ….

i am always thankful for all graces that given to me by my God…

I am glad you guys are successful with great families. One boy and one girl here but the youngest is just finishing college on full scholarship – thank God. Ed we would like to see house building pictures if you feel brave. ๐Ÿ™‚

quote Ed:

quote Sir Ville:

There’s only one thing worse than two young kids. That is three young kids. I speak with the voice of experience. Thankfully those young kids are all now in their twenties or i’d just slice my wrists and lay down in a hot tub….

Yep, I have three daughters, 15 years, 5 years and 2 months, one dog, three cats, plus building a new house, which takes a lot of time, power and money ๐Ÿ™‚

quote Sir Ville:

Nothing is flawless – expect a Finn.We were originally made as an image of God but in the end the copy was so much better they changed the whole concept.
Anyway- my concern wasnยดt the o-rings nor the washers but the fact that the first EdGun i had blew the breech. It took 4 months to get an replacement. While waiting i bought another EdGun (unacceptable solution for most) to have something to shoot with while i wait. That one had a serious problem with clipping. I can understand one gun being sub-par but when one gets the next- and that one also has an issue – it kinda takes away any credibility towards the manufacturer. Am i right ??

You’re definitely correct,based on your personal experience. My experience has been complete opposite.
But that’s the case with everyone and everything though isn’t it,perception based on experience. Very few people can actually weigh all available info and come to logical conclusion regardless of personal experience.
General consensus is regardless of little issues with gun or manufacture these pups are both excellent guns overall and which ever one gives owner biggest grin will probably do so for many many yrs.

quote tcmalker:

quote Ed:

quote Sir Ville:

There’s only one thing worse than two young kids. That is three young kids. I speak with the voice of experience. Thankfully those young kids are all now in their twenties or i’d just slice my wrists and lay down in a hot tub….

Yep, I have three daughters, 15 years, 5 years and 2 months, one dog, three cats, plus building a new house, which takes a lot of time, power and money ๐Ÿ™‚

Glad to see your greed has afford you a brand new house. You could have left that out and we would have felt some pity for you, but no….you had to brag. But at least now we know why you are so greedy.

I just don’t know how to response to something like this. Maybe I will pray.

Oh God, please help my friend TCMalker grow up. I am in debted to you. I promise to return the favor 10 folds.

John.

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