why attack the Mutant
I have been scratching my head for weeks now trying to understand why a small group of people attack the mutant. I understand that there is a lot of politics in the airgun business because the market share is small. I know that dealers and manufactures hire Spartans to invade forums and spread fear and discourse. AGN has become a cesspool of special interest pushing a gun. The Mutant is a fantastic gun. I don’t get paid to say so, I paid for my gun the same way all of you will. I never wanted my real name out not because I am hiding but because I wanted to stay anonymous. I wanted be able to call a dealer, get a gun, and review it without any special treatment or customized treatment that so often is the case with guns sent to “professional reviews”. When a gun goes wrong I’ll be the first person to call the problem out. Many of you remember me on the rampage about the Mutant short barrels and more recently about the EDgun .30. I love the honesty found here on this board. Tony has given us the freedom to speak the truth even if it may hurt a gun that he sells. I only stray from my original question slightly in order to illustrate a point; if you bullshit, lie or have a secret agenda over here on TAG you will be drawn and quartered by it’s residents. This is why the spartans stay away from this board, they would be crushed.
So back to the question at hand…why attack the Mutant? The price. I held the opinion that Steve from WWAG over priced the Mutant. I think he priced the Mutant at 1450 for several reasons. He wanted a dealer network, and he may have felt the need to protect the Cricket. I also knew that eventually someone would begin to sell Mutants for cheap. Let’s face it, labor cost are pretty low in the Ukraine. It’s hard for a socialist country with insane taxes and utility cost to compete with a small Ukrainian maker. So you are a large dealer, your main source of income comes from a country that pays through the roof labor cost and taxes. Suddenly a little gun that is efficient, accurate and quiet comes along and threatens sales of the more expensive guns. So you make sure that doesn’t happen.
Never forget the airgun holy trinity: Accurate, Reliable, Quiet. When a gun has all three of these characteristics you have a winner.
Thanks for reading
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sold Zonk and H()()T couldn’t get much for them
sold my cricket sold my colbri sold my Leyla but what do you know still have the Baby Mutant
Just to be clear I did shoot stuff at 100 yards, but also at 183 yards with a 10 inch barreled gun. I never brag about my shooting because I am never where I want to be. My point is a gun that size to be able to solidly hit a shotgun shell at 183 yards the gun has to be doing something right. (15.89 pellet shooting 23 FPE)
No chance ZX , got accused of being a dealer today. Lol… I’m like you guys , just not afraid to speak up
Yeah, maybe those fools over at AGN will shut their faces now. The Mutant is a sweet package.
Would the stock on the standard drop into the shorty? It would only block the fill port correct? Or does the trigger assembly not match up as well? I only ask because the foregrip on the shorty looks a tad short. It would be better in my opinion if it was longer. Maybe an 0.5-1″ shorter than the reservoir.
Interesting question, if it’s the same that will make the LOP the same also.
The most reason why I think the Shorty is so easy to fall in love with, it’s a comfortable fit !
~ GKU
That says it all.
Darryl
Joe,
You just sank the arguments of “basement quality” made over at that other forum. The collective opinions of owners are worth more than the pictures from a competitive dealer (with perhaps an interest in pushing his own brands). I wanted (someone else) to clearly state their opinion about the gun’s build quality. Sure, the stock looks “utilitarian”, but form seems to follow function, as expressed in Keyser’s video review. I don’t have one problem with that. What else can a person say to nay-sayers who are bent on blinded criticism? In the end actual owners’ evaluations trump speculators’s views every time. I’m eagerly but patiently awaiting my sample.
Thank you for your reply
Darryl
Dman I’ll post a pic when I get it back from my shooting buddy , he’s on vacation and I left my Mutant with him . Im trying to get him to unass some money and get a Real AIRGUN ! He’s a springer guy , I’m gonna show him the power of the dark side
Good post on the Mutant, I got a 22 cricket that shoots super great or I would have a Mutant now,
Earnest I get first shot at that 30 cal Mutant when you get tried of it,, I told you this after your build of the gun and ask about your layaway plan, LOL.
Just a bunch of kids over on AGN , I am there as the same, Iride,
Mike
You just earned back your brownie points. For that I will send over SniperQty to pleasure you.
I am Glad you joined the Mutant fan club. Like Keyser, I have no intentions on selling this one.
Joe…. Post a couple pics Of your mutant…. More specific a pic of the right side of the breach Please Thanks
But just in case I need one of your LDCs Donny ……..Donny knows everything !!!! He is not only handsome but a BB gun guru . A powerful man and a true visionary …How’s that ?
Donny the Carbine was one Ernest had worked on already and it was a killer deal . I just got Mutant in last week , the owner let me pay it out ( thanks Bill ) !!! I promptly broke the Carbine the day after I got it ..Now Ernest having to fix it ….Donny you gotta get a cool nickname like Ernest !! A cool nickname gives ya super powers !
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I’m also wondering what he’s trying to imply on this reviews involving the Mutant. It seems he’s giving it a negative vibe but due to the language barrier, I’m not certain. I do know he sells all the other airguns in his review except for the Taipan. Is he questioning the trigger and cycling in one of his videos? Even our resident pro tuner Ernest gives that aspect of the Mutant high praises so I question the intent of sniperqty’s video. He’s a smart and well respected tuner and reseller. It’s fine to do a subjective comparison and point out dislikes and criticism but once you go beyond that point, people start to question your motives.
His motives are quite clear… the man sells vulcan ….
Mugghram sells the mutant in kuwait… sniper is feeling the pressure. Right now the mutant is gaining traction and sniper does not.like that.
Wonder what he is gonna do when tamaun releases the .25 bullpup. …..
Who told you I feel the pressure ?? :rofl: :rofl: