.22 LR vs. .22/25 Bp ( of any kind)
There´s been lots of talk whether an airgun in .22/25/30 beats an .22 LR in accuracy to 50,75 and/or 100 meters ( or yards) so i´d like to add a new thread where we can compare group sizing on those aforementioned rifles/distances to get out something more than assumptions and biased quesses out of it. I. myself, have been leaned towards to airguns – at least up to 50m. but i´m no longer all too sure about that. i love my EdGun but when the groups get all that much tighter with my .22 LR i´m beginning to wonder….
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It’s just about impossible to get ammo here and can’t buy bulk on the net because they don’t ship air.
Dang, I need to find someone that can buy and ship USPS parcel (land/boat) because that’s gonna be the only way to get some ammo here 😥
I feel your pain Manny. Virtually no such animal here. The .22 ammo simply vanished over night, and has stayed that way. IN TEXAS No Less!!! 😯 😕
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I wonder if it’s very complicated to send you a brick of Norma’s from here…
Coda – .338 Lapua is the one i’m aiming at. Check out Sako TRG 44… Brrrrrr…. And THAT round goes for 6$ a pop!
A marvellous cartridge though.
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Just spent 40 bucks in gas going to town and came back without finding one single box of .22 LR 👿
It’s just about impossible to get ammo here and can’t buy bulk on the net because they don’t ship air.
Dang, I need to find someone that can buy and ship USPS parcel (land/boat) because that’s gonna be the only way to get some ammo here 😥
338 or 338 Lapua. 😯
And with a Schmidt & Bender…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_891438&feature=iv&src_vid=emJ0RToUYGE&v=yovUXvl_9Ys
Try the Centurion. Shoots well in many of my friends rifles as well – Anschütz´s,CZ´s, 10/22´s and Weihrauch´s – just to name few. Isn´t Colibri that weird,pointed little round with just the primer as a propellant ?? Sounds like fun but like you said one probably doesn´t shoot the group of a lifetime at 100 meters with those … 😀
The -338´s costs around 4.50$ a pop over here. Go thru 500 rounds of those a week and you´ll wonder where did your wife,kids,cars and your house all went while you were at the range. 😯
I do have some Aquila Centurion and it pretty inexpensive here being close to Mexico I guess but I have never tested it. I have a few bricks of Colibri which is fun at 700 fps for the backyard but it isn’t very accurate.
I have TWO 50 round boxes of Eley match and it is fabulous out of my inexpensive Savage heavy barrel 22 with a Bushnell Banner 6-18x scope but too expensive the way I burn ammo. 😳
I can’t believe how quickly I go through 350 and 500 tins of pellets each week. I am slowly creating a lead mine in my backyard.
A 338 draws blood at both ends. 😛 When I was in high school I hunted everything with my Remington 30-06. I also shot a 300 Win Mag quite a bit but that starts to cross the abuse barrier with lots of shots.
That´s what it costs here too – if you pay retail. I get the SK and especially Norma at good price but i pay dearly for Lapua .. 🙄
Haven´t even tested the higher echelon Eley in this rifle. Tested the cheap Eley Sport and i´d been better off throwing the cartridges at the target – POS ammo. I had a case of Aquila Centurion HV (got it ridiculously cheap) and it shot remarkably well – in fact my rifle likes it hot since all HV ammo (except American made other than Aquila but then again the “Centurion” is made in Mexico under a license) shoots really well. I´d like to test some CCI Mini Mags and Green Tags to see how they work. My rifle really refuses all the Federal i´ve tried (that means the “Champion”), hates the Remingtons,laughs at Winchesters and pisses on American Eagles. Oddly enough the hyper vel. CCI Stingers shoot OK being the only US made ammo i´ve managed shoot somewhat respectable groups with. Maybe my Sako is a liberal closet – communist, like our dear Uncle H 😯 😯 T ???
P.S My caliper shows both the stone-age imperial scale and the modern millimeters 😉 6.75mm = a skosh over 1/4 inch.
P.P.S I´m considering a new rifle – a Sako TRG 44 cal. 338 – and it looks like i´ll buy one. You don´t even want to know what those rounds cost over here. I won´t be stocking up by thousands – that´s for sure … 🙄
Nice shooting. Just glad you showed us that in inches(I think its inches 🙂 ) or we wouldn’t understand it. I have 15,000 rounds of the stuff you don’t like. Maybe 2000 rounds is CCI and that is the best I got. They take your right gonad here for match ammo like Eley/Tenex. Eley match is about $14 US for 50. $1330 for 5000.
Test shot the new stock today and it worked well indeed. The pistol grip is kinda angled outwards and it felt a bit odd the first couple of dozen rounds before i got the hang of it but now i understand why it´s angled that way – it puts your trigger hand and finger into most natural position for trigger pull without any twich to it. I adjusted everything to my liking (cheek pad,length of pull and adjusted the buttpad height and had a blast.
Shot this target as the last one using SK Standard Plus. 8 shots/50 meters/ 6.75 mm cc. Shot the way i always do my benching : Bipods but no beanbag or such under the rear stock. I just let the rear stock rest over my left (unbelievably muscular and beautiful) underarm.
Manny – i just got a delivery for a case (5000 rds) of Norma Jaktmatch. I have some 2500 rds of SK Std Plus and around 1500 rds Lapua Midas+ plus a couple of thousand rounds of miscellanous brands i don´t like ( Federal,Remington and Winchester) . No ammo shortage in Europe nor at Casa De Ville ! :8:
This upcoming weekend i´ll do shooting at 100 meters with the ammo my Quad likes the best – Lapua Midas+. I´ll try to keep it inside an inch/10 shots and if i don´t manage that i´ll quit shooting all together. 
the trigger linckage on the Muzzlelite stock is pretty bad and makes trigger pull harder than when the rifle is on the Wood stock but still I was able to ge Nickle groups at 30 yards and I only shot a few rounds ( can’t exausts my ammo stock untill they start selling rounds again )
The Pup is pretty cool tho, super light and 30″ overall lenght,
I had to do a couple more MODs to the stock to make it where I like it 🙂
Will post pictures
STOP giving me new ideas! Now i want a BP stock for my Sako,damn it…
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I have an old Marlin M1 22 I redid the walnut stock on. I would love to make it into a bullpup.
I just put together my Marlin 60 SS into a bullPup stock.
I’ll show some pictures in a couple of days,
I can shoot subsonics and it still cycles as a semiauto, quiet enought to shoot in my backyard and still has 100 FPE and can get nickle groups at 50 yards.
will start shooting it as a BullPup later today and see how good I do 🙂
ammo avaiability is the problem right now.
ANY Finn with a modicum of self respect will be able drink that much Vodka all by his lonesome. No friends needed to get the room spinning . :6:
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How the hell can the most widely used cartridge in the Universe just disappear – in US ?? Unbelievable. Where did that shortage come from and why ? ❓ 😯
P.S KM – i really,really like your knifes. Truly fine pieces indeed.