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EDgun Matador R3 versus Kalibr Cricket, my comparison….

Hi guys,

Warning for those who don’t like images:

This is going to be a thread with lots of graphics….. 😉

As promised, I’ll try to share with you my personal opinion and findings while comparing these beauties:

As some of you may know, I have two Matador Std R3s and I have one Cricket (with access to another one). All are cal.22……

My wait for my Matadors should be well documented on this very forum…..

The Crickets were a part of a group buy masterminded from Europe somewhere. The Crickets were shipped in parts to Norway and reassembled by my good blueprinting friend Egon Olsen. In the process he had to remove a “restrictor” screw that had been put into the guns before shipment. Most probably because of Power limitation rules at origin….

The Crickets arrived with no documents whatsoever. No instructions, – no nothing. I don’t think this is standard procedure though…..

The Cricket weighs less than the R3, – and is approx 5 cm shorter. Not a lot, – but overall it makes the Cricket even easier to handle than the already tiny R3….

The side by side comparison was done from my modest little shooting table at my summerhouse:

– and the shooting range is here, – with my target set up at 46mts:

Why 46 mts ? Simply because I could not pull my shooting stand further back right now. A huge tree has fallen during winter, and all the branches have taken up my space… 👿

First problem: How to fill the f…. Cricket ?

The fillprobe nut is so tiny that a standard foster coupling gasket will not seal. The entire probe is small, – and you fear you may break it while trying to tighten it:

The above (sorry for the image quality) is a comparison between ED’s, Cricket’s and Falcon’s fill probes. You can probably see what I mean….

As I could not make a standard Fostergasket fit, Egon had to make special gaskets that we fitted into the Foster coupling itself. Not an ideal solution, – and I have no clue how long it will last…….. 🙄

On the fill probe: Matador 1, Cricket 0 points.

Air filling:

I honestly dont like any of the solutions that these two manufacturers have chosen………..

The Cricket people have come up with the worst. To expose the hole for the fillprobe, – you have to slide forward the tip of the reservoir. But that stupid tip is retained by a spring, – and slides back with a smack once you let go:

If you’re not careful when taking the fillprobe back out, the tip will spring back and ruin the fill probe O-rings faster than I can say my name….

While filling, the “tip” rests on the previously mentioned small nut. And there’s not a lot clearance. So a bigger nut (for those with lathe skills), – is not going to help you much. A thicker nut might…….

In short: A very stupid filling system, – BUT once you know how to operate it and care is taken, – at least it covers the hole when filling is over.

The Matador does not come with anything to cover the filling hole at all:

I use tape right now, – but a plug of some sort would be good….. 😉

My preferred system would be that of Falcon:

The tip of the reservoir has been turned into a curled “collar” that you rotate to expose the hole. Simple, easy and effective. And few moving parts that may break or go astray……….

Now, I have no idea how much air I can fill into the Cricket, – and the gun gauge certainly does not help much:

I trust the gauge on my fillkit, – and 3000 psi is roughly on the border between green and yellow…….

Points for airfill procedure: Matador 1, Cricket 0. In my opinion….. 😉

Cheers from Trygve 😀

To be continued……….. 😀

(if you so desire…… 😳 )

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quote dvdrw:

If the bolt and nuts are rust free I’m very pleased that Ed is listening to us and acts accordingly. Way to go Ed !

I agree, “derusting” my bolt probe is one of the few annoyances about my 2.5. I must have sweaty hands because I have to go at it once every few months. I’m glad to hear it was remedied.

quote Ed:

quote koljo:

Ed ??? 😉

Tomorrow she will go to the bank with the paper you’ve sent me and ask where the money is, then I’ll come back to you with the answer of the bank.

Thanks for responding 🙂

Thanks..

And Zoco, your name crossed our outdoor competition yesterday too.. You have many watchers/followers my friend 🙂

quote koljo:

Ed ??? 😉

Tomorrow she will go to the bank with the paper you’ve sent me and ask where the money is, then I’ll come back to you with the answer of the bank. She cannot see it by on-line banking.

Kazzz, you will have the tracking number tomorrow, Andrey was out to Poland. Don’t you worry.

quote zocoloco:

Ability to communicate:

Ed………: 10 points

Ed ??? 😉

If the bolt and nuts are rust free I’m very pleased that Ed is listening to us and acts accordingly. Way to go Ed !

quote Maverick:

I am willing to communicate and do their best to answer all your questions.

If this is the best he can do, – I guess he may have failed already…….. 😉

Ability to communicate:

Ed………: 10 points
Maverick: 00 points

That said, ED is not typical for the breed. Not many airgun manufacturers (if at all any) communicate the way ED does…….. 😀

If nothing else, – brilliant guerilla marketing/brand building on his part…. 😉

And not only that, – apparently his is listening too……

Remember my rusty and nastily looking Matador bolt handle ???

Well from now on:

And Hoot, – you’re right. ED predicted the outcome of the Kalibr communication:

It appears he may have been right……. 😉

Maverick: The ball is in your court now …… 😆

I’m off for three weeks in my summerplace with my grandson (18 months). And guess what I have brought with me this time…..

Matador x 2
Veles
Lelya

– and the Cricket………

My Russian “summer adventure”………???? 😉

Let’s see…….. 😀

I’m waiting answers too, though… :/

quote Hoot:

😀 Revenge is sweet, Ed! 😀

Do I hear you thinking “I told you so…”

H 😯 😯 T

How did you dare to think this way about me!? 🙂 I am very anxious about the issue and just wanted to be as more useful as possible. 🙂

quote Ed:

So strange to ask it hear when you got a response from Maverick. Didn’t he answered your questions?

😀 Revenge is sweet, Ed! 😀

Do I hear you thinking “I told you so…”

H 😯 😯 T

So strange to ask it hear when you got a response from Maverick. Didn’t he answered your questions?

Hmmmmmmmm………

H 😯 😯 T

Hi all,

I am struggling to find the “optimum” speed for “lady Cricket”…….

Serious adjustments seem difficult. The adjustment knob allows for adjustments, – but only finer ones as I see it.

Maverick: What do you consider to be the optimum speed for your gun with JSB15.8s ??? And for the JSB18s ????

And is there an alternative hammerspring available that would give the rifle some more power ???

Thanks……

Trygve in Oslo 😀

Probably won’t see that multishot mag option for the Matador until the backlog wait is down to 30 days or less. In other words not much incentive to invest in molds and tooling when Ed can’t keep up with single shot demand.

With multishot will be matador terrific. I try to wait… 😛

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