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EDgun Matador R3 versus Kalibr Cricket, my comparison….

Hi guys,

Warning for those who don’t like images:

This is going to be a thread with lots of graphics….. 😉

As promised, I’ll try to share with you my personal opinion and findings while comparing these beauties:

As some of you may know, I have two Matador Std R3s and I have one Cricket (with access to another one). All are cal.22……

My wait for my Matadors should be well documented on this very forum…..

The Crickets were a part of a group buy masterminded from Europe somewhere. The Crickets were shipped in parts to Norway and reassembled by my good blueprinting friend Egon Olsen. In the process he had to remove a “restrictor” screw that had been put into the guns before shipment. Most probably because of Power limitation rules at origin….

The Crickets arrived with no documents whatsoever. No instructions, – no nothing. I don’t think this is standard procedure though…..

The Cricket weighs less than the R3, – and is approx 5 cm shorter. Not a lot, – but overall it makes the Cricket even easier to handle than the already tiny R3….

The side by side comparison was done from my modest little shooting table at my summerhouse:

– and the shooting range is here, – with my target set up at 46mts:

Why 46 mts ? Simply because I could not pull my shooting stand further back right now. A huge tree has fallen during winter, and all the branches have taken up my space… 👿

First problem: How to fill the f…. Cricket ?

The fillprobe nut is so tiny that a standard foster coupling gasket will not seal. The entire probe is small, – and you fear you may break it while trying to tighten it:

The above (sorry for the image quality) is a comparison between ED’s, Cricket’s and Falcon’s fill probes. You can probably see what I mean….

As I could not make a standard Fostergasket fit, Egon had to make special gaskets that we fitted into the Foster coupling itself. Not an ideal solution, – and I have no clue how long it will last…….. 🙄

On the fill probe: Matador 1, Cricket 0 points.

Air filling:

I honestly dont like any of the solutions that these two manufacturers have chosen………..

The Cricket people have come up with the worst. To expose the hole for the fillprobe, – you have to slide forward the tip of the reservoir. But that stupid tip is retained by a spring, – and slides back with a smack once you let go:

If you’re not careful when taking the fillprobe back out, the tip will spring back and ruin the fill probe O-rings faster than I can say my name….

While filling, the “tip” rests on the previously mentioned small nut. And there’s not a lot clearance. So a bigger nut (for those with lathe skills), – is not going to help you much. A thicker nut might…….

In short: A very stupid filling system, – BUT once you know how to operate it and care is taken, – at least it covers the hole when filling is over.

The Matador does not come with anything to cover the filling hole at all:

I use tape right now, – but a plug of some sort would be good….. 😉

My preferred system would be that of Falcon:

The tip of the reservoir has been turned into a curled “collar” that you rotate to expose the hole. Simple, easy and effective. And few moving parts that may break or go astray……….

Now, I have no idea how much air I can fill into the Cricket, – and the gun gauge certainly does not help much:

I trust the gauge on my fillkit, – and 3000 psi is roughly on the border between green and yellow…….

Points for airfill procedure: Matador 1, Cricket 0. In my opinion….. 😉

Cheers from Trygve 😀

To be continued……….. 😀

(if you so desire…… 😳 )

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quote zocoloco:

ED, – Is it all talk, – or will we see something soon ? 🙄

Or is it just that you have too much on your hands to get the waiting list for the R3s sorted ??? 😉
😀

All is good in a good time, I always follow that principle of the life and was in a success till now, hope will be in the future as well. I have no problems with selling what I do, so I am on the right way whatever people think about it 🙂

It’s interesting to see how some subjects are being recycled….. 😉

On lots of different forums, – the Cricket as well as the EDguns have been commented on earlier……

Even here:

http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13445

Not a comparison though, – but still worth reading through for those interested…..

Among the statements made is this one by ED:

This was 2,5 years ago……..!!!! 😯

ED, – Is it all talk, – or will we see something soon ? 🙄

Or is it just that you have too much on your hands to get the waiting list for the R3s sorted ??? 😉

😀

quote koljo:

……. BUT, please note that we are interested in FACTS rather than gory details about your personal relationship with Ed. Koljo 🙂
quote RiffRaff:

..You and Ed may have issues between yourselves, but we welcome discussion about the guns. All info is good info as long as its truthful but lets keep it about the guns. 😉

All,

I fully agree……

I spent the night reading through the entire thread linked to by Maverick above (you may think I am mentally disturbed and maybe
I am…. 😳 )

Google did a fairly good job in the translation process, and although I did not uderstand all of it, – it seems rather obvious that there may be a “cultural difference” in the way we communicate on a forum…..

This thread is indeed about the two brands of guns, – and I fully second the desires to keep this gun related and not related to individuals involved and/or personal relationships.

Maverick was briefly logged in this morning and has seen our comments…

Thanks from Trygve in Oslo 😀

quote Maverick:

…Everything is writing about Edward, I think his weakness is comparable with a jealous girlfriend… l

Welcome on board, Maverick!

We expect you to enlighten us on all aspects of your production so that we can compare it with the other bullpups on the market. BUT, please note that we are interested in FACTS rather than gory details about your personal relationship with Ed. This way we can work out for ourselves who is the girlfriend and who is the boyfriend in the extramarital affair 😳 you are talking about in your introductory post.

Koljo 🙂

quote Maverick:

Hi guys.
Thank you for inviting to participate in this thread.
Everything is writing about Edward, I think his weakness is comparable with a jealous girlfriend. The company’s products Kalibrgun is new, we offer our customers with the opening of a new plant in Europe for the correct amount of product and to provide all the needs of the market, including the USA.

I am willing to communicate and do their best to answer all your questions.

http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/30/977165.html

Welcome Maverick

Looking forward to information on your gun. It looks great

How is the .25 Cricket different from the .22 Cricket? It’s much more powerful…how did you do that?

If we purchase one, how do we get parts/repair instructions?

Thanks!

H 😯 😯 T

Hi Maverick,

Thanks for replying to my email, – and welcome onboard this thread/forum where bullpups are in focus and in particular the Crickets and Matadors…. 😉

This thread has lately become the fastest growing thread in here with some 700 views over the last 24 hours only. This should indicate that there is a certain interest for the subject. Readers/viewers come from all over the world and I dare say represent a huge potential market……

I am in process of comparing the two guns. ED has been kind enough to come forward with some valuable information regarding his guns. It is now up to you to comment on yours and/or answer questions.

Thanks again for joining us. You/we are now in a unique position. Never before in the history of airguns have two bosses from different and competing companies participated in a thread like this and agreed to share their views….

Please feel free to comment whenever you think it is appropriate……….

Thanks and cheers from Trygve in Oslo 😀

Those Crickets sure look nice and they have a repeter feature, if they come to the states I might have to look into them 🙂

Welcome Maverick.

You and Ed may have issues between yourselves, but we welcome discussion about the guns. All info is good info as long as its truthful but lets keep it about the guns. 😉

Hi guys.
Thank you for inviting to participate in this thread.
Everything is writing about Edward, I think his weakness is comparable with a jealous girlfriend. The company’s products Kalibrgun is new, we offer our customers with the opening of a new plant in Europe for the correct amount of product and to provide all the needs of the market, including the USA.

I am willing to communicate and do their best to answer all your questions.

http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/30/977165.html

quote zocoloco:

As late as May 14th this year ED confirmed in writing on a Swedish forum that he’s planning a mag, – and that it will be made available to those with single shot Matadors……. 😀

He did not say WHEN it would be available though……….. 😥

ED ????

Friend Zoco-Loco, considering your lifestyle you’ll most certainly live long enough to witness the birth of a Multi-Shot/Semi-Auto EDgun 😉

😛

quote Hoot:

quote Riverside:

Hoot:
I see only subtle semantic advantages to the other Slavic bullpup
now if Ed releases a semi auto .25 breech he will be light years ahead of his nearest competitor in the American market.

X2

But will he????

Hoot

As late as May 14th this year ED confirmed in writing on a Swedish forum that he’s planning a mag, – and that it will be made available to those with single shot Matadors……. 😀

He did not say WHEN it would be available though……….. 😥

ED ????

quote Riverside:

Hoot:
I see only subtle semantic advantages to the other Slavic bullpup
now if Ed releases a semi auto .25 breech he will be light years ahead of his nearest competitor in the American market.

X2

But will he????

Hoot

Norway is a beautiful country, thanks for the pictures, I used to live in Molde for a little while,…miss it 😥 😥

Hoot:
I see only subtle semantic advantages to the other Slavic bullpup
now if Ed releases a semi auto .25 breech he will be light years ahead of his nearest competitor in the American market.

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