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mm123522
Participant
August 23, 2009 at 12:45 am
Q:

LOTHAR WALTHER TO OFFER A 9MM BARREL !!! GOOD NEWS!!

I noticed a new entry on the Lothar Walther site.
They will be offering 9MM airgun barrels!!!

READ THE FOLLOWING BACKWARDS these are Emails going back and forth:

Woody:

Thanks for the quick response!!!
How do I get signed up for one of these barrels?
I can announce your intension to offer 9MM airgun barrels on the airgun forums.

The bullet I use has been 105 grain, conical, flat nose.
It is about .5 inch long and hand cast from a lee mold — soft lead.
I can get 1050 FPS (250 foot pounds energy) using this bullet.

The gun / bullet combination is very inaccurate (4 inch groups @ 50 yards).
I am using an Addams & Bennett, $79 , 1 in 15 inch, barrel, 26 inch long –>junk!
I cut the barrel OD from 1.25 inch to .75 inch, as a result there are tight and loose areas in the bore.

I just tested with a 125 grain, conical, flat nose bullet. Lee mold #90238
It is .6 inches long and 135 grains, as cast.
I get 1000 FPS, for 300 foot pounds energy.
This is the bullet I intend to use, as it produces more energy.
As of yet, I have not done accuracy testing, with this bullet.

With airguns, increased barrel length equals more power.
28 inches is better than the 26 I am using now.
$125 sounds good by me!

Again: How soon can I get one of your barrels?

Thanks!!!
Mark

From: Woody lotharwalther@mindspring.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 6:09 PM
To: mark
Subject: Re: Message from the US-Webcontact-Form

Mark,

We are setting up production now on 9mm airgun barrels. They should be ready for ordering about late october.

The OD will beprobably 0.700-0.750″ Length is to be 28″.
Twist will be 18-or 20″. (650fps) However, at the velocity you are getting 16″ would be better.

For a single one, you are looking at $125 give or take some. Possibly less depending on quantity.

After these start production, they will be a stock item here.

What sort of projectile do you use. This may affect the design of the barrel.

Sincerely,

Woody
—– Original Message —–
From: marK
To: lotharwalther@mindspring.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:19 PM
Subject: Message from the US-Webcontact-Form

Message \\\”Other Calibers
Beyond the common calibers for airgun, LOTHAR WALTHER is able to offer you all other calibers for new airgun projects as for example .308, 9mm etc.

Please call us at 770-889-9998 or send us an email.\\\”

I BUILD CUSTOM HIGH POWERED AIR RIFLES.
I AM LOOKING FOR A 9M OR .357 BARREL BLANK.
CM OR SS.
IT MUST BE LONG, 28 TO 32 INCHES.
1 IN 20 RIFLING (OR YOUR RECOMENDATION)
IT WILL SHOOT A 135 GRAIN BULLET @ 1000+ FPS.
STRAIGHT OUTER DIAMETER BETWEEN .625 AND .750 INCH.
CAN YOU BUILD SUCH A BARREL?
HOW MUCH $$??

THANKS
MARK

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vincentvangerven
Participant
December 15, 2009 at 5:56 pm

ok, anybody received their barrel & actually shot a few rounds through them? if so what’s the verdict? good barrels? accuracy? FPE? used projectile?

walkonking
Participant
August 27, 2009 at 5:59 am

You need to hang around better educated people then 😀

yellow-ninja
Participant
August 27, 2009 at 4:49 am
quote Voltar_1:

quote Jerry:

quote WalkonKing:

Brad you might want to keep in mind we only know what you are doing by what you are saying.

If somebody said ” I took Brad Selph bigbore and sent it to China for them to get started” the same people who chided you would also jump to your defense in that situation.

Exactly.

x2

Chide…. Never seen anyone on a forum use that until Tron… and now I see it all the time.

voltar-1
Participant
August 27, 2009 at 4:47 am
quote Jerry:

quote WalkonKing:

quote selphb:

Thank god someone finally understands what I was trying to do. 😀 😀
Thanks

Brad you might want to keep in mind we only know what you are doing by what you are saying.

If somebody said ” I took Brad Selph bigbore and sent it to China for them to get started” the same people who chided you would also jump to your defense in that situation.

Exactly.

x2

selphb
Participant
August 27, 2009 at 2:17 am

I made a mistake on the price, I found my original email from Woody and the cost of the barrels is $177.00 ea + S&H of $10.00 pay pal + 4%

walkonking
Participant
August 27, 2009 at 12:02 am

Go forward and make a nice gun.

selphb
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 11:57 pm
quote WalkonKing:

quote selphb:

quote pablouk:

I think the question mark was weather Brad was making a direct copy or not. His original post said he had sent a DAQ barrel to get Woody started. I first read that as a bit dodgy, but it makes perfect sense. Look at a known barrel design and go from that. NOT copy it but make it better…..

Evolution guys… 😀

Thank god someone finally understands what I was trying to do. 😀 😀
Thanks

Brad you might want to keep in mind we only know what you are doing by what you are saying.

If somebody said ” I took Brad Selph bigbore and sent it to China for them to get started” the same people who chided you would also jump to your defense in that situation.

WOK
You do have a point, so what do you think I should do???????

jerry
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 11:34 pm
quote WalkonKing:

quote selphb:

quote pablouk:

I think the question mark was weather Brad was making a direct copy or not. His original post said he had sent a DAQ barrel to get Woody started. I first read that as a bit dodgy, but it makes perfect sense. Look at a known barrel design and go from that. NOT copy it but make it better…..

Evolution guys… 😀

Thank god someone finally understands what I was trying to do. 😀 😀
Thanks

Brad you might want to keep in mind we only know what you are doing by what you are saying.

If somebody said ” I took Brad Selph bigbore and sent it to China for them to get started” the same people who chided you would also jump to your defense in that situation.

Exactly.

walkonking
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 10:38 pm
quote selphb:

quote pablouk:

I think the question mark was weather Brad was making a direct copy or not. His original post said he had sent a DAQ barrel to get Woody started. I first read that as a bit dodgy, but it makes perfect sense. Look at a known barrel design and go from that. NOT copy it but make it better…..

Evolution guys… 😀

Thank god someone finally understands what I was trying to do. 😀 😀
Thanks

Brad you might want to keep in mind we only know what you are doing by what you are saying.

If somebody said ” I took Brad Selph bigbore and sent it to China for them to get started” the same people who chided you would also jump to your defense in that situation.

selphb
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 10:08 pm
quote pablouk:

I think the question mark was weather Brad was making a direct copy or not. His original post said he had sent a DAQ barrel to get Woody started. I first read that as a bit dodgy, but it makes perfect sense. Look at a known barrel design and go from that. NOT copy it but make it better…..

Evolution guys… 😀

Thank god someone finally understands what I was trying to do. 😀 😀
Thanks

pablouk
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 9:23 pm

I think the question mark was weather Brad was making a direct copy or not. His original post said he had sent a DAQ barrel to get Woody started. I first read that as a bit dodgy, but it makes perfect sense. Look at a known barrel design and go from that. NOT copy it but make it better…..

Evolution guys… 😀

jerry
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 9:05 pm

And I will freely admit that looking at the competition and improving the art is valid and an honest practice. My concern was that copying was going on and sending a barrel to a barrel maker reinforced that in my view of the world. Given the mature science of barrel making, I would not see a need to examine a DAQ but maybe I’m wrong.

If Brad came up with a better design that shoots better than that’s great. As far as my experience and reading takes me, the .308 is probably DAQ’s best barrel. So, the standard will be pretty high. I’ve actually seen some pretty great groups from DAQ .308s posted by folks I know to be honest.

pablouk
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 8:47 pm

I think Brad has been jumped on full stop.

From what I know of him, he is VERY honorable.

If you want a better .308, you have to look at a current one and improve on that.

walkonking
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 8:35 pm
quote airtight_python:

quote WalkonKing:

Nope,

But if someone makes a claim I like to see some evidence. Everybody loves a more accurate barrel.

If what you seek is cold hard science, you will not find it here. Everything you will get is biased or strewed. 😆

I think there will probably be more then one person to test how Brads barrel shoots.

It is one thing to take a look at DAQ’S barrel and another to try and copy it. Brad claims it is not a copy but an original. So lets see what he’s got.

pablouk
Participant
August 26, 2009 at 7:49 pm

Dammit Brad, why bdon’t I live in the ‘States…. 👿

I want me one of those .308s….

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