more ACCURACY issues please help!!!
So I was finally able to get to the range again today at 100 and 50 yards.my accuracy with bags is less then I would expect from a 1700 dollar rifle 2300 dollar system. The rifle has over1400 rounds threw it and it has been tuned by me as some of you know. Just yesterday I reconfirmed my fps here is my results. not only is my accuracy not as good as i thought it would be but the shrould changes the poa by 2 1/2 inches at 100 yards it is not hit, i think it is either due to weight or harmonics of the barrel. i free floated the airtube before also so airtube changes should not be and issue. could my accuracy issues be due to the wrong fps for my gun? could i send my rifle back after this long of having it? should i send it back? i am at a loss with this rifle! i spent just about everything i got to own one and it does nothing that people claim they do!!!!! this gun has brought me more stress then three kids have ever, because at least i can spank children! can’t spank the cricket! well it wouldn’t do me any good!
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take the last 2 shots off an i get 37 shots from 180 bar
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Top fill your gun and shoot 3-5 shots per target only at 50 yards.
This will help you see the full shot analysis.
It maybe an improper torqueing of the frame hex bolts ?
~ GKU
I free floated my airtube and i have torgued and retorgued every screw on my gun. What are the correct torgues?
oops I edited.
Top fill your gun and shoot 3-5 shots per target only at 50 yards.
This will help you see the full shot analysis.
It maybe an improper torqueing of the frame hex bolts ?
My 22 did this before the re-torqueing of the frame bolts.
If I supper impose it onto each other it may match/look like yours ?
~ GKU
My accuracy seems to walk a lot sometimes I will have a really good 4 shot group at 100 yards the group will be under an inch, then the 5th one will move way left or way right and the next will go further sometimes making another small group away from the first one. It sucks!!
I’d do 3-5 shot per target and see it may look a bit better then ?
~ GKU
Yes but that does not help with my consistency of shots. Especially when your poi is changing all the time.
Not bad, because it’s a 11 shot grouping.
I’d do 3-5 shot per target and see it may look a bit better then ?
It will also help show POI shifting if any, when doing a full shot string.
~ GKU
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Should I take my losses and get a different gun????!!!! Or get a smooth twist barrel?
Can the wrong pellet really give me 4in groups at 100 yards??
GKU I think the older pellets will make the difference I would agree with you. But I disagree with the groups being not bad. You need to be very tight at 50 to do any kind of consistent longer range Pesting. My cricket went to pieces after my older stock pellets went dry. I didn’t realize this till I stopped shooting because it was frustrating. I though it was me. So I went back to paper punching and quickly saw the problem was the gun. Now this thing used to do a one holer at 40 yards. I had 2 tins of old stock pellets left and tried them and everything went back to normal. In the middle of all this I put it up for sale. Buyer comes up and I let it go the same week the older pellets come in. So all in all I’m sure glad I have Vulcan coming next week.
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I see, crown damage is unlikely then.
So how about the 2 tins of Kings to try my friend ! 
PM me …….
~ GKU
I use a sectioned steel rod with a crown protecter and I use a little bit of a solvent oil mixture on the first patch let it sit for a couple of mins then I use dry patches until its clean then I use a little oil on a couple of patches until its clean again (mac1)
Hi Chad,
Your groups are not all that bad you know. š
Maybe many factors but I do think it can be a bit better still.
Did you also try swapping out and using a different scope ?
Again what barrel cleaning method do you employ ?
I would not rule out the quality of the Kings that you have been using also.
I have been buying/trading/saving and hoarding many pellet lots for many years now.
Also I do believe your are in the US, if so would you like to try JSB King lot 11/02/2013, I have a stock load of them still.
This is the inventory of just that lot alone ….. they have been shooting well in my 25 cal Condor SS.
PM me your name and address and I’ll send you some to try, no charge ,,,,, ,,,, , , how’s 2 tins ?
~ GKU
One more thing I tried my groups while tethering and not tethering my tank to it.
1) there are scope cam ideos of ppl shooting like 3 times better groups with a .25
2) I use a .25 and I do expect better groups then 1.1 inches at 50 yards with no wind.
Yes, your crony string looks good to me very comparable to many.
The POI shift with and without is most likely from barrel harmonics in conjunction/addition with the Shroud/LDC added mass.
Try resting your hand on the shroud when shooting to dampen the effect and see if it has a difference, mainly the grouping should go up like without it on.
Iād also try and remove just the LDC, leave the shroud on and try it again.
The reduction of removing the mass on the end may lessen the effect.
Also not to offend you or anything but Bullpups are and can be harder to learn how to shoot well then a standard long rifle, especially the larger cals.
Question, what type of barrel clean method/system have you been using ?
~ GKU
1) I did not have the ldc on, I will try the hand thing.
2) I am not offended. Lets just say every rifle I have ever owned shoots better then me, but this rifle with a stable bench, stable bipod, and a shooting sand bag under the toe of the stock can not keep up with me at all! Wish I had a scope cam to show you guys.
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10-15 ft/lbs IIRC.
~ GKU