My Edgun R3 is finally here!
Edgun R3 .25 Long serial #0249 finally arrives after a long but very worthwhile wait.
Tony did a great job packing. The rifle was double boxed along with thick protective foam wrapped around each end and popcorn to fill any additional gaps.
This shipment has the new stainless steel bolt and a new breech. Internally it also has a new and more efficient valve.
The trigger doesn’t look like it has changed.
She will be getting a new scope soon but for now is wearing the Mueller 4.5-14×40 Tactical scope http://muelleroptics.com/mt451440
Thank you Ed! Thank you Tony!
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This is the truth!
I think (hope) my first Edgun will land on my doorstep tommorow. It would be nice if it would shoot as accurately and efficiently as possible for that first 1500 – 2000 shots while the gun settles in. From all I have read over the past year while I have been waiting, this will not be the case. I will probably wind up adjusting the regulator as soon as I baseline the gun, then again after I feel the gun has settled in better. I am sure that many people will never tune their Edguns and never have a chance to see the gun perform near it’s full potential.
My recommendation to Ed: Initial setup should be for accuracy and efficiency, not raw power. Some people do not have a chronograph, but everyone has bulls-eyes.
I vote for whatever Ed recommends. I personally loved disassembling mine and seeing how it worked.
From a marketing standpoint I can see how some are frustrated who don’t know to let it break in and are looking at Crickets strings. . I’m sure many of us don’t mind spreading the word.
I’ve seen first hand how the reg continued to tighten up on SD and Max spread as the shots piled on. 1-2k is a good starting point for break in. 5-8k and she’s really settled. Over 20k and she’s is like a fine Swiss watch of consistency.
And I also am anxiously awaiting the 9mm Ed!!!! Any more teasers??
My vote is 890 tuned from Ed then after break in period we fine tune it ourselves.
honestly it really comes down to whats better for the gun…if its better for the gun to shoot in the 800~ mark then let it be set to that…but if ed sets the guns to shoot hot then i would assume there is a reason to the madness…
As for the magazine…that would be a great addition to a great shooting gun…just think of it…the follow up shots would be fast as lightning…i have one for my QB78 and its a great addition to any air rifle.
I too vote for delivery @ 890
I remember seeing/reading somewhere that the Matador was built and optimized with the JSB pellet in mind (found it)
“The barrels are made by Lothar Walther, Germany, according to the specifications and drawings issued by EDgun company and designed for using lead pellets made by JSB Diabolo company…”
So then why set it to a higher then optimal speed?
On the other hand, in search of perfection, I have learned A LOT about my rifle and can perform a full disassembly – regulator adjustment – assembly in less then 17 minutes.
I love the fact that you (Ed) show up from time to time and interact with your clients 🙂
Q
Hi Ed.
Thanks for the reply. It is always nice to see that you find the time to check up on the TAG.
I understand your thinking on the higher speeds during break in. I have also seen where some guys try to shoot groups with a gun that is shooting in the 950s and the groups aren’t as good at that speed. The larger posted groups that the higher speeds cause could lead some buyers away from a Matador and into buying a Cricket.
What do you guys think? Would you like Ed to leave the Matadors set at 940-950 or set them up at 880-890?
PS, Ed some of the guys are waiting for the magazine to be released; I am still waiting for the 9 mm Matador! 😆
Sure!
Ed I have a little problem…would it be ok to private message you about the situation?
Hi, Tedd,
No problem to adjust it to 880-890 f/sec at the assembling place, I will follow your recomendations if you think it will be better for users. On the other hand, my own opinion is it is better to have it overspeeded a little bit, to break the gun in.
As for Cricket — they just cannot speet it up more then 880 m/sec 🙂 .
Hello Ed!
I understand that you want us to wait until we have shot 1500-200 shots thought the gun and then tune it. I also understand that the Matadors used to come set up to shoot the JSBs at 880-890 fps.
Some of the new R3s come set to shoot in the 940-950 range and would only shoot faster after being broken in. I know that the Matador is easy to adjust but, it could easily be set to shoot in the 880-890 range when delivered.
I agree with Varminter; it would be great if the new Matadors would come set up to shoot in the 880-890 range. I also agree with Varminter that it is fun to tune the Matador and tuning one allows you to get an understanding of the gun that you wouldn’t get if the gun shot in the high 880s as delivered.
It currently seems like most of the new Crickets are delivered to shoot in the high 880s and it makes the Matadors that are shooting at a higher speed look bad.
Not that I would ever think about buying a Cricket! 😆
Varminter, I told before — when you get a new gun, just shoot, for about 1.5-2 thousand shots. Then you should clean it carefully, including the barrel and adjust the speed again. It means to decrease speed down to about 500 f/sec and then smoothly raise it up to the nessesary, accurate speed you need. And after then you can forget about any “tuning” 🙂
Wait patiantly, I will go to Estonia towards the end of this week, to assemble the guns and hopefully they would leave Estonia for USA next week.
Ed
Oh trust me Ed i can wait a few more weeks…I’ve waited a year so far…I can finally see the finish line…
Ed, any chance you can start tuning them again to around 890 FPS and with the hammer spring tension in balance with the regulator like many of us have done with our own Matadors? I personally loved learning how to tune my Edgun with the help of oldgoat’s video but some feel it should perform closer to this out of the box. My first .22 Matador came tuned out of the box from you and shot very consistently and efficiently. I just want everyone to know, especially the cricket owners or the people interested in both rifles, how a well tuned Edgun really performs. When people compare the Edgun Matador with another rifle I don’t want to have to ask if they took the time to tune it first before the review or comparison. My .25 R3 Matador Long came shooting in the 940’s and had a larger spread than I liked. After a quick tune it is now shooting around 890 with a very low spread and a very high shot count. After tuning it, I love love love my .25 Edgun Long!
I know it’ll be a long wait but I am looking forward to receiving the magic email from Tony that my .177 Lelya has arrived. The wait may be long but it gives me something to look forward to and it has always been worth the wait. 😀
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Just set the regs to 120bar instead of the current 130 bar..for the .22’s
Fine tuning with the HST is simple enough for us all to do. Tearing an Edgun down to adjust the reg scares most people.