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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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Haters gonna hate.

quote Ed:

quote Sir Ville:

There’s only one thing worse than two young kids. That is three young kids. I speak with the voice of experience. Thankfully those young kids are all now in their twenties or i’d just slice my wrists and lay down in a hot tub….

Yep, I have three daughters, 15 years, 5 years and 2 months, one dog, three cats, plus building a new house, which takes a lot of time, power and money 🙂

Glad to see your greed has afford you a brand new house. You could have left that out and we would have felt some pity for you, but no….you had to brag. But at least now we know why you are so greedy.

quote Sir Ville:

There’s only one thing worse than two young kids. That is three young kids. I speak with the voice of experience. Thankfully those young kids are all now in their twenties or i’d just slice my wrists and lay down in a hot tub….

Yep, I have three daughters, 15 years, 5 years and 2 months, one dog, three cats, plus building a new house, which takes a lot of time, power and money 🙂

Nothing is flawless – expect a Finn.We were originally made as an image of God but in the end the copy was so much better they changed the whole concept.
Anyway- my concern wasn´t the o-rings nor the washers but the fact that the first EdGun i had blew the breech. It took 4 months to get an replacement. While waiting i bought another EdGun (unacceptable solution for most) to have something to shoot with while i wait. That one had a serious problem with clipping. I can understand one gun being sub-par but when one gets the next- and that one also has an issue – it kinda takes away any credibility towards the manufacturer. Am i right ??

It’s a much deeper and more intimate level of ass kissing :-).
To say something is flawless when there are obvious known problems is what I’m talking about.
Your typical Obama supporter falls into this category. Blind due to head up deep dark cavity. LOL
Availability of spare parts is great as long as manufacturer is still making part and in business.
I’m sure you have experienced as I that over time parts are no longer made for older models or company is no longer and parts
unavailable for any product. I’ve got 25 yr old Stihl chainsaw that runs perfect. Some parts are no longer available for it and things need to be modified.
I know on my Edguns that the Orings, Belville washers inside regulator and air valve rod are the parts that will wear over time and need replacement. So far all original parts still working , hmmm hmmm flawlessly. Close to 60k pellets on 22 and close to 13k on 25.
Orings and washers are easy to get. I ordered and received in a couple weeks several air valve rods in case I ever need. I’m certain I could have rods duplicated but they are cheap to purchase so I’ll just buy spares now.
The rest of the guns parts can be duplicated easily with lathe or mil should they ever break.
I’d be bummed if I couldn’t get parts either. Luckily my experience was good.

Head-up asskising ?? Never heard that frase before .. 😀

On the other hand i´ve had the issue with poor o-rings with my Cricket. Other than that i have nothing to complain. The fit and finish is far better than those in the EdGun´s i´ve had. Those o-rings are easy to change and cost nothing. I could´ve had a new set of original o-rings thru the Warranty but i don´t want the originals so i ordered a set from Ernest.
Those blown breeches and out-of-round mufflers etc. found on EdGuns is a totally different matter alltogether. And not being able to receive any parts in months kinda bums the spirit.
I´ve had two EdGuns – the keyword being “had” and i´ll not buy another one again before i know all spare parts are readily available . Whatever you may think the EdGuns need spare parts too – at least as much as the Crickets – and it isn´t just o-rings you can order from anywhere.

quote charlie101:

quote Urgirlinmyjetta:

I didn’t know I had to create a new thread explaining in detail how the kalibrgun criket is more superior to the edgun matador!….but make fun as you wish cause I really could care less…

Wow MG was right…do you always taste shit when you eat…if you do I would recommend taking your toung out of eds ass than….the cricket is a great machine…I own both and prefer my cricket for its flawless multishot system and compact size..

I doubt “its flawless multishot system”. The small spring fall out from trigger group.

Let’s not forget the rest of that flawless list=Indexing issues,magazine holders missing its pivot rod, mag holders popping open and peoples mags hitting ground getting lost,
corroded and misshaped metals resulting in blown Orings, cheap Orings,bent side covers, misaligned shrouds.
Good thing there is a great dealer network of spare parts, it’s obviously needed with the parts that just “fall” off those guns.
Apparently there is a bit of “head up ass kissin” in Cricket land. :3:

quote Urgirlinmyjetta:

I didn’t know I had to create a new thread explaining in detail how the kalibrgun criket is more superior to the edgun matador!….but make fun as you wish cause I really could care less…

Wow MG was right…do you always taste shit when you eat…if you do I would recommend taking your toung out of eds ass than….the cricket is a great machine…I own both and prefer my cricket for its flawless multishot system and compact size..

I doubt “its flawless multishot system”. The small spring fall out from trigger group.

I wasn’t making fun of you.
I will leave it at that.

I didn’t know I had to create a new thread explaining in detail how the kalibrgun criket is more superior to the edgun matador!….but make fun as you wish cause I really could care less…

Wow MG was right…do you always taste shit when you eat…if you do I would recommend taking your toung out of eds ass than….the cricket is a great machine…I own both and prefer my cricket for its flawless multishot system and compact size..

quote Urgirlinmyjetta:

Don’t worry I’ll let you in on the info…the cricket is quieter…lighter…more stylish looking…and shoots great…and parts for the gun are always there when you need them…so xo facto it’s better than the edgun…now you can go and vote!.

I do find it kind of strange how ted hasn’t done a review on the cricket being that he’s done one for the edgun and bobcat.

No doubt it gets a lot of impressive reports.
I will still wait for first hand experience before taking a stance.

A lot to be thankful for!

Been there, – done that !!! 😉

I grew up with three sisters, then I ended up with three daughters myself (where’s the man in my life ?). I spent a lot of time with the kids when they were small/early teens. Later they sort of vanished into the things teens do, leaving daddy behind worried as time passed midnight and into the early hours of the morning. That’s when I usually got a call from somewhere: “Daddy, please, can you pick me up ?”….. 🙄

Now they have passed that “critical” stage and have reached the age of 30, 27 and 25. I have also been blessed with a grandson (now 3, – first gun already bought and ready for him, – a HW30S), – and thanks God all is well with all of them. We’ll all spend X-mas together (including my ex), and we really enjoy each others company. Yes, family first. A true blessing I think…..

But yes, I enjoy the time I have on my own…….

Cheers from
Trygve (still wrapping presents)

Ville….I have 3 right now. 9, 12, 15. They are the joy of my life, but MAN…..MY WHOLE DAY is gone just picking them up and dropping them off somewhere!

Of course it is!
I just enjoy the silence around the house though. All three of my daughters has left the building so it’s such a peacefull place to be these days.
Try to imagine three teenage daughters fighting every damned day. Thank God it’s over. I tell you.

Sent from a Tab my wife lured me to buy … If your Aunt has a pair of hairy balls does that make “her” your Uncle ?

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