MATADOR R3M on it’s way to Norway, – arrived finally….
Yes I know……. ๐ณ ๐ณ ๐ณ
I’ll try not to start another mammut thread like the one here:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=19488
– but yes, I have taken the plunge and ordered (and paid for) a brand new R3M std. walnut cal.22. As there are no Edgun representatives in Norway, I have been dealing with Ed directly……
I also ordered a multishot breech to fit on my single shot R3s…….. ๐
So now the wait begins……. ๐ฅ
But this time I am at least prepared for the worst. I don’t expect to get it until towards late autumn………
I’ll keep you updated though, and again shipping is the most difficult issue I think………
We’ll see………
Cheers
Trygve ๐
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very nice groups just out of box.
great numbers and great groupings.
love your updates and reviews.
Wow……. !!! ๐
I’ve spent some time in my basement. Don’t know where to start really……
I have had some 50 pellets through now, – and these were my notes:

I started at around 195 bars and used my Crombo for the speed measurements. I noted the pressure after every ten shots, – an it appears my R3M cal.22 consumes some 12/13 bars per 10 shots. I write like a pig, but people with a goood imagination may be able to read the velocity numbers I hope…….. ๐ณ Out of the box between 925 and 900 fps with the vast majority around between 910/920.
I used the ms-function with proper indexing, and it never failed once ! It felt a little rough in the beginning, but after a few shots I forgot all about that. It didn’t feel very different from a lot of other guns I have been shooting.
I never removed the mag. It stayed in there all the time. I realized that the mag reveals four open slots as it rotates, – and I simply recharged after every four shots via these. Refreshingly simple as the mag is somewhat hard to pull out. But as it happens, – there’s honestly no need to take it out. Just recharge as I did. It works beautifully…….. :8:

Hawkeyes may notice that the mag has been “filed down” quite a bit and gone is anodizing and friends around the edges at the back of the mag. This happens because the mag is being squeezed against the back wall of the mag slot as it rotates. What squeezes it is the spring loaded ball bearing that lines up the mag for each shot:

This ball bearing is a tough little fellow with quite some force behind it. Not only does it push the mag firmly against the back wall of the mag chamber, it also gives the mag some beating as it rotates from one shot position to the next:

You should be able to see how the anodizing is being filed off on the rim of the mag.
There seems to be some grinding going on also around the center of the mag on both sides. Here is the other side of it:

However that’s not the end of the grinding story. I was very surprised to find that the outside surface of the mag also seemed a bit “tired” and “scruffy” after today’s session. Inspection of the mag slot in the breech revealed an edge on the inside that most likely shouldn’t have been there:

No big deal as it will be grinded off and polished by the mag during the break-in period……. ๐
However, there’s a lot of friction in this mag set up. Some of it will go away eventually, – but not all. How to lubricate this part I don’t know yet. Aluminium on aluminium is not easy, and added to that is the risk of getting some lube into the pellet slots and further into the barrel. On that path there’s an O-ring in the forward breech that must be passed too. And O-rings don’t like anything but silicone grease………
I may want to try some silicone spray glider that dries like a thin film on whatever material. It’s designed to reduce the friction of rigging, zippers etc. on a sailboat and should probably do the trick here too……..
My gun is of the MK I type, – and the breech/mag system is already obsolete. As I understand it, the versions shipped to the US is of the MK II variant. I’ve never seen one of those but will soon. Apparently the mags and the indexing system may have been modified a little and for the better. The little nasty ballbearing that pushes the mag against the wall, has been moved inwards towards the center of the mag. That should mean less distance for the mag to rotate against it between shots. It should also mean that the cam that indexes the mag would need less power to do so as it gets a longer “arm” to work with…..
We’ll see…… ๐
Oh, – I forgot to tell you how this little bastard shoots. Below is tonight’s session on “paper”. There are five 10 shot groups shot from a sandbag at a distance of 50 m (55yds). The groups should speak for themselves:

Cheers
Trygve in Oslo ๐
Shooters Lube ๐ that’s new and i just may steal that . That 80% Inland Rum will give you a bit more than just Beer Goggles- you’d be hitting on HOOT after a couple of shots.
That brings precious memories from those Austrian skiing holidays we used to have … Minus the “hitting on HOOT ” – thing…
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2. This POS iPhone sucks though …
Zoco,
It will be kinda like beer goggles, no matter what the groups actually are, they will always look good to the user.
And here I thought it was a fine Austrian rum but a shooter’s lube makes perfect sense. I may need a bottle if it helps the groups. ๐
Simple to use, the shooter pours a couple of ounces down his breech, and gives it ten to fifteen minutes to soak in, warm up the stiff parts, and do its magic!
It’s not cheap. But then when was a superior product ever inexpensive?
Kindest regards,
Uncle H ๐ฏ ๐ฏ t
Spot on as always ……..! ๐
Austrian 80% brandy, – does keep you warm……….. ๐
Not so sure about the groups though……… :3:
WHAT!!! ‘Coda…that’s a bottle of Shooter’s Lube!!! “STROH80” has been lubing shooters of high quality firearms, and air guns for many years, and more than one swear it improves their shot groups. I understand it is a “penetrating” lube that quickly makes it’s way to the shooters joints, and internal moving parts, quickly smoothing out their movement.
Simple to use, the shooter pours a couple of ounces down his breech, and gives it ten to fifteen minutes to soak in, warm up the stiff parts, and do its magic!
It’s not cheap. But then when was a superior product ever inexpensive?
Kindest regards,
Uncle H ๐ฏ ๐ฏ t
My Standard 30 cal definitely had the action cycled a few times at least. I normally clean the barrel and look my guns over pretty well before I shoot them in case there are any metal filings, etc. in the barrel that might scratch it. It also had about 190 bar so it was pressure tested. No test sheet but my last Standard .25 Matador from last spring didn’t have a test sheet either but I remember it too had about 200 bar pressure in it.
My Daystate Air Ranger had a test sheet from AOA in with it but MG claims they are all fake. ๐
Is that bottle next to the gun a fine scotch?
Nope, no test shot sheet for me either. Not a deal breaker but would have been nice to see.
What brand of mono pod is that on the rear of the stock? Ive seen them but never knew.
– so finally, – scoped up and ready for action……..:

I’ve just been able to secure some 17.000 JSB18s from a batch I know well. That should keep me happy for a while I think……… ๐
Now the basement parking area is next. That’s my indoor 50m range. If I’m lucky I shall be able to zero tonight (lot of folks have taken their cars out and left for X-mas celebration elsewhere). We’ll see…
No answer form ED about how/if my gun was ever testshot properly. That is NOT a good sign !!! ๐ฅ
Did any of you folks that just received your guns receive a proper testsheet with it ?????
Cheers
Trygve ๐
The same here. MS is probably great for plinking but … Thatยดs why i ordered an SS tray from Ernest. Iยดll force the Doc to make me one out of aluminium later.
Actually, I like single shot for the .25 and .30. MS is great for my plinker .22 Cricket or a .177 when I pick one up. Any word on the Walnut Minelli stocks for the Bobcats? Oops sorry Zoco – wrong thread.
The MS kit as delivered vs his “Doctored” version arenยดt even comparable. I donยดt think he made any new parts for it but rather made all the tolerances of its existing parts where those shouldยดve been when it left Russia.
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Wow!
I’d put up with a lot of break-in pellets to get groups like that at 50 meters! That’s just plain incredible shooting. And, it’s only going to get smoother as you use it!
H ๐ฏ ๐ฏ t