Mystery Box!!!
Wife called to tell me that a mysterious box was delivered home!
I arrived and saw it. Was waiting for it for long time
I opened the box and it’s love at the first sight!!!
It’s my new 25 Cal Vulcan!
Now the discovery journey will start!
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Smart thinking Jeff!!!
Hoot:
Not sure it was necessary but I went through all the vulcan sliding surfaces and added a teflon based dry lubricant. Goes on clear and wet but dries. Terrible name but its called “super lube” and comes in a grey spray can. I would avoid applying it to rubber surfaces as it can react and damage some polymers but great for metal on metal sliding surfaces. Its also my favorite lub for bike chains as it doesn’t attract dirt.
Jeff
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In my experience, grease/lubes in an airgun do one thing very well…collect dirt, dust, and lead particles. I’d suggest a moly or graphite dry lube…or one that is sprayed on with a light solvent that evaporates. If you just HAVE to have a liquid lube, at least get the lightest weight, non-volatile, product you can find, and use it very sparingly. Unlike springers, there’s no areas of extremely high friction in a pcp. Most moving parts are just shoving or pulling. In these guns less lube is good lube. Once a year at most. They are much easier to clean that way.
Hoot:
Awny, that pellet seating effort gets weaker over time and use. A bit of silicone grease on those barrel O-rings might help, but time and use almost eliminates that pressure. Consider it a “break-in” process, as mine has almost no effort now that I’ve used the gun for awhile.
Not to worry. Other issues will come up as well, but self resolve. Your FPS will drop too…but don’t worry about it. Mine settled down in the mid-800’s and that’s plenty. It can be raised, but at the expense of less shots and more sound.
My advise, use this gun awhile before you get too excited about anything. There have been precious few real problems found with this gun that were not resolved with use and/or simple adjustments.
Hoot:
That’s very good to know Hoot. Thanks for the good advise. Again!
I’m glad its just a break-in process. Watching the videos it did not seem the other guns needed so much force so that explains it.
On the grease tip. What other areas of the gun do you recommend putting silicon grease on. My gun internals i examined are as lube-dry as a kitchen knife out of a dishwasher.
Silicone grease is to be used (sparingly) on all o-rings. It’s actually not a “lube” but something to keep the o-rings from drying out and loose the elasticity. A good o-ring grease makes the rubber to swell a bit too. I got some marvellous stuff that’s normally used on pneumatics etc.
Hootie (and the Blowfish) is keen on any and all lubrication but Silicone Grease is not used to lessen friction. He learned that the hard way but that Folks is another story altogether.
Ville….bring a tube of that “Synthetic Mucus Super-Glide” you’ve been bragging about over on the Rainbow Forum!!! I’m getting my fiddle re-strung…I’ll play while you bump and grind with one of the boys…
Hoot:
Deal !!
I use a spray lube for my pellets, it’s called One Shot. It’s a dry lube used for resizing cartridge cases. I also use a silicone grease for the breech o-ring and seating pellets is very easy.
Just my :2cents:
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Lube sparingly and be careful what you use….
Mine is also fairly dry and works like a champ. I simply haven’t seen any friction points yet. I use some spray/dry moly.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Hoot:
Awny, that pellet seating effort gets weaker over time and use. A bit of silicone grease on those barrel O-rings might help, but time and use almost eliminates that pressure. Consider it a “break-in” process, as mine has almost no effort now that I’ve used the gun for awhile.
Not to worry. Other issues will come up as well, but self resolve. Your FPS will drop too…but don’t worry about it. Mine settled down in the mid-800’s and that’s plenty. It can be raised, but at the expense of less shots and more sound.
My advise, use this gun awhile before you get too excited about anything. There have been precious few real problems found with this gun that were not resolved with use and/or simple adjustments.
Hoot:
That’s very good to know Hoot. Thanks for the good advise. Again!
I’m glad its just a break-in process. Watching the videos it did not seem the other guns needed so much force so that explains it.
On the grease tip. What other areas of the gun do you recommend putting silicon grease on. My gun internals i examined are as lube-dry as a kitchen knife out of a dishwasher.
Just one other thing…being from Texas myself…try to keep your hand out of your pants between shots. It makes the trigger smell funny! I know…I know….they itch, but try to focus on what you are doing. It’s just a bad habit probably picked up as a kid when watching other men drive, work, and talk to each other. Stopping this habit will also make the other shooters around you feel less “awkward”…unless of course they are also from Texas.
Hoot:
PS: Just remembered…I used to soak mine in a mixture of apple cider vinegar and kerosene, just before I went shooting. Seemed to help. Burned like hell at first, but that eventually went away. AND…I got some very nice compliments! My wife said I smelled like one of them scented candles!!!
Hoot,
I was not born in Texas but I came to this great state by choice!
Same goes for my hunting buddies. Can’t say the same about the guys in the shooting range though. But over there the smell of burned powder prevails!
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Just one other thing…being from Texas myself…try to keep your hand out of your pants between shots. It makes the trigger smell funny! I know…I know….they itch, but try to focus on what you are doing. It’s just a bad habit probably picked up as a kid when watching other men drive, work, and talk to each other. Stopping this habit will also make the other shooters around you feel less “awkward”…unless of course they are also from Texas.
Hoot:
PS: Just remembered…I used to soak mine in a mixture of apple cider vinegar and kerosene, just before I went shooting. Seemed to help. Burned like hell at first, but that eventually went away. AND…I got some very nice compliments! My wife said I smelled like one of them scented candles!!!
:hoot:
Awny, that pellet seating effort gets weaker over time and use. A bit of silicone grease on those barrel O-rings might help, but time and use almost eliminates that pressure. Consider it a “break-in” process, as mine has almost no effort now that I’ve used the gun for awhile.
Not to worry. Other issues will come up as well, but self resolve. Your FPS will drop too…but don’t worry about it. Mine settled down in the mid-800’s and that’s plenty. It can be raised, but at the expense of less shots and more sound.
My advise, use this gun awhile before you get too excited about anything. There have been precious few real problems found with this gun that were not resolved with use and/or simple adjustments.
Hoot:
OK so I took my first 100 or so shots today (took me awhile due to work and needed to get a trap that can safely take 50 ft.lb pellets).
The gun shoots at around 890 fps. I did not do a full chrony test yet to see the consistency. Hopefully later this weekend.
My first observation I have to say is not very favorable. When loading the pellet into the barrel, cocking the bolt at the end is very hard. I thought I was doing something wrong and I jammed the assembly. But then I remembered Hoot’s advice on the last 1/4 inch being hard because of the effort in pushing the pellet in the tight barrel. But thats quite a lot of force I had to put. I really do not like it when compared to the cricket or daystate mechanisms. One of the coolest point about the vulcan design was that you could keep your eye on the scope while loading the next pellet. The amount of force I needed to put defeats the purpose I think.
But may be its just me and my weak left hand and something I need to get used to.
Maybe one of our metal or wood workers could fabricate an angled piece to mount between the stock and rail so we would have a flat parallel to the barrel. Of course, it would have to have the same hole spacing as those already bored into out stocks.
Yup I searched a lot too with no luck. I can’t believe with all these exotic extensions to mounts there is no such a thing that deal with slated forearms.
You know you´re curious … Hang on !
Ville, don’t do it man.
Don’t you learn? This Karma thing is no joke. Remember Ben Dover!!!
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So got chance to go to the range and do scope alignment and first shooting with the vulcan.
I only went up to 50 yards this time (will go up to 100 next time). Below is the last and best group I got.
I have done better with the cricket. But for first time with the vulcan and with the gun barely had total 100 shots with it I would say I am very pleased with the results. i am told the gun with shoot better after 1000-2000 shots, and I will get more accustomed to it too.