The Haley .457 is here.
My haley .457 is finally here i should have the 58 in bout 2 weeks my 457 is supposed to produce 500+fpe i got the scope mounted tonight and will shoot tomorrow and YES i Will get u guys some pics also
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LOL…oh yeah, RC, i’m very familiar with the One Ringy Dingy, Two Ringy Dingy….lol
Dan,
With my Tiger Wood Laminate, the inlet was done to their FACTORY SIZE, then i bought the 1″ inletting tool. After i got it to RIGHT at 1″ width using the inletting tool, My buddy came over to help me get it to 1 1/8″. He did that part while i chilled. He’s got all kinds of wood working toys and did a great job on the expansion of the inlet.
I also use PERMALYN Sealer and Finisher on my gun stocks from BROWNELLS. I like the stuff.
Its also good that you talked to Helen and she listened to you about Airguns. A few years ago, i did the same things with no luck. I did not talk to helen though. It was one of the guys in the shop. I even gave them some WEBSITE ADDY’s to check out to give to the owner and i also brought along one of my BB GUNS to show. They did not seem to be interested even though i showed them how other folks were charging upwards of 600 bucks and do really good. So VERY GOOD for you. Now if you can only convince em of other style airguns that would be awesome. I’m tired of trying to convince folks. I’m getting old and grumpy and very impatient with people….lol.
I also talked to ???(i forget his name now) and he said that my stock would be ready by either WEDNESDAY or THURSDAY of next week FOR SURE. He VOWED THAT HE WOULD HANDLE IT garuanteed. So we will see.
And yeah, i ‘ve not had any problems with their stocks at all.
it’s a matter of programming a CNC is what it comes down 2, i can remove 1/16 all the way around with tubing and sand paper , not 2 hard man
You haven’t worked much wood have you.
That will be a pain in the ass.
Good luck with it.
it’s a matter of programming a CNC is what it comes down 2, i can remove 1/16 all the way around with tubing and sand paper , not 2 hard man
I don’t think a stock machined for a 1″ tube is going to fit a 1 1/8″ tube with a little sanding. Seems to me that if RMF want’s EP business, they should buy a 1 1/8″ bit and do the freaking job right…
the tube inlets are generaly fine, at least on the QB stocks
where I have had issues is oversize cuts on the trigger group inlet and the screw hole to retain the action being drilled in the wrong position
can be quite the wait getting your product as well…sigh
real bad
worse yet their post purchase customer service is absolutely non existant
but when you get a stock thats right they are nice
I just finished skeletonizing one last night, came out rather nice
well i guess it’s good that i will be finishing off the last part 1/8 of the inlet for fitment on my gun , i have seen a bunch of there stocks that people have bought they look nice after they are finished , and i am buying one knowing that i will be doing some work on it, for fit and finish.
i may end up using west systems clear epoxy to finish the tigerwood laminate, with in the inlet ,and on the rest , west systems is bullet proof hard as a rock clear finish salt water proof ! just what i need for the North West weather that we have .
again, I warn you some of their inlet jobs stink like fresh baby shit
real bad
worse yet their post purchase customer service is absolutely non existant
but when you get a stock thats right they are nice
I just finished skeletonizing one last night, came out rather nice
My black powder laods with 500’s at under 1200 FPS would pass thru elk end to end. so I have no doubt the 45 will do the trick, and it is 800 dollars cheaper than the two barrel set, that is 800 dollars towards a Royale 400 or 500.
I am just going with that classic style walnut stock for mine, which is what attracted me in the first place.
Dan and Tofazfou, do you ever think that Richards place has Lilly Tomlin from the old laugh in show answering the phones and listening to the ring?
“One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy….” But maybe you guys are not old enough to have seen that one.
Folks that don’t answer the phone really concern me when I do business with someone.
Regards,
Roachcreek
i don’t blame you , if you are going with 1 caliber -45 is the way to go , way more available cheaper to shoot , and you get way more shots per fill and the gun is lighter to carry , than the 58 set up , the 58 is a bad azz set up for sure , faced with a charging grizzly bear it would it would be a nice equalizer ! shooting 600-820 g hollow point !
honestly the 45 could take car of anything that roams the North American continent , it does shoot the pure lead 540 g mrhollow point up over 900 fps which leaves one hell of a big hole out the back of what ever it hits ! it was just tested out on a hog a few months back 35-40 yards blew a big hole through it’s head , turned it into BACON on the spot !
Dan at xp airguns is now working on a shot gun barrel for the gun this should be very interesting , i think he has the right power platform to make it happen .
Now as far as the gal from Richards …..you know ….1 ringy dingy ……..2 ringy ………….. HA ! HA ! NO really i called her today to go over a few things she did apologize for the mix up on things , and did come up with a fast way to cut the inlet to right at 1 inch, so miner sanding will get it to the 1 1/8 that i need, and is going to have the high cheek piece build to be 1 inch higher so that i can cut it to what i want, and the for-arm part is going to be made extra large for free of charge .
so i am giving them a second chance , and helping her out with new bizz – being able to sell to XP airgun customers once they get the inlet cut dialed in for the ranger airguns , i set it up between Helen at Richards and Dan at xp airguns , we will see how this plays out , they have a fantastic selection of stocks , and as i told her- if your customer service is good and the product is cut right to fit ,and good quality you have a bunch of new bizz coming your way . i really hope this works out for both of them .
my stock order will be the first test of this
After looking at bullet selection for the 45 and the 58, I have decided to go only with the 45.
My black powder laods with 500’s at under 1200 FPS would pass thru elk end to end. so I have no doubt the 45 will do the trick, and it is 800 dollars cheaper than the two barrel set, that is 800 dollars towards a Royale 400 or 500.
I am just going with that classic style walnut stock for mine, which is what attracted me in the first place.
Dan and Tofazfou, do you ever think that Richards place has Lilly Tomlin from the old laugh in show answering the phones and listening to the ring?
“One ringy dingy, two ringy dingy….” But maybe you guys are not old enough to have seen that one.
Folks that don’t answer the phone really concern me when I do business with someone.
Regards,
Roachcreek
I too called richards microfit and i keep getting a message that the phone lines are busy and that someone WILL return my phone call. I mean come on AMERICA…who is ordering that many stocks from RMF gun stocks that they have not answered their phones NOR called me back in over a week. QC and Customer Service in todays business’ FUCKING SUCK.
When i first ordered a stock from RMF for a QB action, i got one for my JH32. Well, his tube on that gun is like 1-1/8″ or so and that same girl told me that they do inletting only for the standard QB action or air tube which i believe is 7/8″. So i just bought me and inletting tool from MIDWAY USA.com
I just took my External hard drive to Fry’s SUNDAY and i got 4 different stories on what was wrong with it. They even told me….oh well, enough of my RANTING…you guys get the point.
OH OK , so you got a tool from MIDWAY USA , to do the inlet COOL i need to check that out since i am in the same boat ! i just bought a prochrono from them , and they were great to do bizz with ,
i got the same DAM answering machine from richards i had to call them back over and over and over to finaly get through , every time that i have called it seems like ,
T did you get your gun stock inlet cut to 7/8 then cut it out the rest of the way to 1 1/8 ?
i am going to have to cut the trigger area out also, i have die grinders with carbide bits that use for porting 2 stroke cylinders , that will work real easy to cut that area out, i have used them on wood before .
i like the way that stock looks ! on your gun .
You know DAN, that is what PEEVES me to no end……WHY IN THE FUCK CAN”T PEOPLE TODAY DO THEIR FUCKING JOBS. I’m certainly expected to do mine so why not others that i give money too.
I too called richards microfit and i keep getting a message that the phone lines are busy and that someone WILL return my phone call. I mean come on AMERICA…who is ordering that many stocks from RMF gun stocks that they have not answered their phones NOR called me back in over a week. QC and Customer Service in todays business’ FUCKING SUCK.
When i first ordered a stock from RMF for a QB action, i got one for my JH32. Well, his tube on that gun is like 1-1/8″ or so and that same girl told me that they do inletting only for the standard QB action or air tube which i believe is 7/8″. So i just bought me and inletting tool from MIDWAY USA.com
I just took my External hard drive to Fry’s SUNDAY and i got 4 different stories on what was wrong with it. They even told me….oh well, enough of my RANTING…you guys get the point.
can anyone provide an example of one of Jack’s rifles failing?
see alot of nancy bitching about this & that & I do agree some of the pix seem pretty damning
Still, for about a $1400.00 premium over what I paid on my JH that XP damn well better not have one solitary issue
that is enough left over and above a JH to buy a second hand DAQ and still have enough left to buy a couple cases of Stoli 😆 😆 😆
ya but i would rather have one xp airgun than 5 of the others ! well then again i could sell the 5 others and get 2 xp tricked out airguns ! HA ! HA ! 😆
Now on the 2 caliber set ups -each caliber has it’s own barrel and complete top action area with bolt action seperate for each caliber, and they change out fast !
Richards has a history of spotier QC than JH and thats dikrect personal experience
at least on their semi inlet jobs which indeed are notorious…
have one for a QB that’s frustrating me currently
I Do like the specs on the XP, may even purchase one but I need to see a bit more real world user data, not what folks are being told by the fellow building them…just my nature
Now I’ve never been inside my rifle, who knows I may have to redo or even have a valve made…just don’t know but other than the valve and end fill I have examined the rest and see none of the issues a few others have had. Good or bad I wil be posting pix of the tear down.
again I can do quite a bit of modding for a grand and for $1600.00 I feel competant enough to design and build something that would suit my tastes a bit better than the XP
just can’t do it until I move up to the cabin and workshop
i hear ya , stock builders are sometimes FLAKES ! Richards has already pizzed me off !
4 weeks ago i put in the order , called them up 2 weeks ago to see how things were going and ask a few more questions , Linda i believe her name was said that IT should be ready in 4 weeks ,now i also asked her about the inlet being sized to 1 1/8 inches , which she did not call me back on like she said she would when i ordered the stock ,about CUTTING this size after she checked with the guy that runs the CNC , so again she said she would call me back with in a few days after she talked to the the guy that runs the CNC , so now 2 weeks later rolls by ! NO DAM PHONE CALL AGAIN !
so i call them back again , this time she tells me that my stock was never fully ordered ! { DRRRRRRRR !!!!!!! idiot !!!! i was thinking to myself as i listened to her ramble on } that everything had to be confermed before it was on order and that it was going to take 10 more weeks if i wanted the inlet cut to 1 1/8 after she talked finaly after a month to the guy the does the CNC ,
CAN YA SAY BRAIN DEAD !
then after i bitch like hell about this whole thing being fawked up by her she then states that she could get the stock finished in 2 weeks if the inlet is cut just 1/2 of and inch !
so i said go ahead cut to 1/2 , i guess i will have to cut the rest out myself , just what ever you do get the DAM THING DONE !
I also told her this stock was going to be picture posted all over the internet and on youtube so your rep is on the line -ya better do a nice job !
right now i am having second thoughts about this fawking stock !
i like the way they look in tiger laminate thumbhole target like tofazfou
stock that he has on his corsair 308 , it is the same richards stock that is why i went to them in the first place
i want this DAM gun to be flipping BAD AZZ ! GOD knows i am working/saving – my azz off for the $$$$$$$$$$ to purchase this set up the way i want it
hell you would think with the way the economy is going this gal would act like she gave shat about her valued customer , and there rep at Richards
i am going to call Dan at XP and see whats up with a few things , and see whats up with the stocks he is having made just in case i have to – or decide to switch back to his oem or synthetic stock
Riverside,
Yeah I do not know how that barrel exchange will work as far as needing an extra bolt. He claims it is a 4 screw change.
I have lusted after that AI stock since I read the guys first post on the yellow. Great idea, I have considered buying MRods two at a time until I found one that woud shoot extremely well and them put it in that stock.
All this worked well for me until I saw a Royale. 😆
It is just a personal thing, but I would have gone with camo, I still may go that route.
It just is that with a Royale, I know it will work.
The xp 58 is a 1043 FPE rifle, but only with 820 grain Mr Hollowpoint, bullets. So anything past 50 yards gets it dropped on them rather than a good double lunger. I will be shooting something in the area of 400 to 450 grains, hard to argue with battlefield sucess.
But either way or however you do it, as long as your pulling the trigger and still have a heart beat, it is all good.
Some pictures of aged 1880 gun leather.
This one was the belt I wore most of the time when I rode on my mountian, it had over 1200 stiches and holes that had to be pierced. It weighed 8 lbs so it was strictly a horseback outfit.
This is a pommel bag that would take two pistols, like the civil war rigs. I carried a silenced Ruger and a pair of fencing pliars in the holsters.
This is how they attached to the saddle, in this case a copy of a 1880 Hieser with a modern tree, slipping over the saddle horn.
All this stuff was copied out of a book called ‘Packing Iron’ and sewn by gas lights on long winter nights.
I could still do it again, if I got my thumbs fused at the joint, and still may go to Thailand or India to have that done.
Regards,
Roachcreek
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it’s a matter of programming a CNC is what it comes down 2, i can remove 1/16 all the way around with tubing and sand paper , not 2 hard man
You haven’t worked much wood have you.
That will be a pain in the ass.
Good luck with it.
ya actually i have worked with wood before , i race jet ski’s , and re-shape/re-design and mod/epoxy glass the fiber glass hulls , i look at this little wood stock and trust me i am not to worried about going from 1 inch to 1 1/8 , were talking about 1/16 of and inch around to remove i already have the material to cut this wood real fast ! and calipers to measure the progress as i do it , it will take a little time ,and effort , everything does that is worth A dam !
try to shave the runners/strakes on a hull straight that change in degree as they go down the hull , now were talking challenge !