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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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Yes Ville… :8: :8: you are correct…. i like my twins & wife too much ,,,, think how difficult i could get my both PCPs and spent more than $6,000 on both… and with all of these i cannot go to practice or hunting as i need it too much … because i want to be with them and take care of them also provide a little help to my wife during my weekends or so…

Family is First always…..

quote Sir Ville:

quote Wingman NZ:

Lol Hemn..

You took that out of context.. It was myself and Ted talking about the stocks but we were just having a laugh..
Ted is not upset.. he just has too many toys to play with and there is not much left to say about the R2.5 or R3.
You will see his R2.5 in action when he finishes editing his vids of the extreme B/R competition..
Ted mentioned a while back that he was going to do a Cricket review but I guess like most of us with a job and two young kids, that comes before hobbies and he is pressed for time.

There’s only one thing worse than two young kids. That is three young kids. I speak with the voice of experience. Thankfully those young kids are all now in their twenties or i’d just slice my wrists and lay down in a hot tub….

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2. This POS iPhone sucks though …

quote Wingman NZ:

Lol Hemn..

You took that out of context.. It was myself and Ted talking about the stocks but we were just having a laugh..
Ted is not upset.. he just has too many toys to play with and there is not much left to say about the R2.5 or R3.
You will see his R2.5 in action when he finishes editing his vids of the extreme B/R competition..
Ted mentioned a while back that he was going to do a Cricket review but I guess like most of us with a job and two young kids, that comes before hobbies and he is pressed for time.

There’s only one thing worse than two young kids. That is three young kids. I speak with the voice of experience. Thankfully those young kids are all now in their twenties or i’d just slice my wrists and lay down in a hot tub….

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2. This POS iPhone sucks though …

Lol Hemn..

You took that out of context.. It was myself and Ted talking about the stocks but we were just having a laugh..
Ted is not upset.. he just has too many toys to play with and there is not much left to say about the R2.5 or R3.
You will see his R2.5 in action when he finishes editing his vids of the extreme B/R competition..
Ted mentioned a while back that he was going to do a Cricket review but I guess like most of us with a job and two young kids, that comes before hobbies and he is pressed for time.

Bleece, i rather believe that Ted upset and i saw him somewhere he was complaining that he didn’t get a nice stock on his new .25cal Edgun, he complained that Eduard has sent not a nice stock, even he was comparing with another guy that he got a nice stock… i don’t remember where was it… ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗

i believe this is the reason that he stopped from uploading Edgun reviews…

maybe someone remember or know where is this…

if it is not like this,then I am sorry Ted,,, and accept my apology…. just my opinion ….

quote bleece:

quote :

Don’t worry I’ll let you in on the info…the cricket is quieter…lighter…more stylish looking…and shoots great…
and parts for the gun are always there when you need them…so xo facto it’s better than the edgun…

I do find it kind of strange how ted hasn’t done a review on the cricket being that he’s done one for the edgun and bobcat.–Urgirlinmyjetta

Very informative on the Cricket… 😉
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Ted? Look’s like he’s in a period of his life where he’s experimenting with a different use of his airgun-video persona.
Cricket–and Edgun, for that matter– likely aren’t part of his experiment. FX and Daystate do look like big participants, though.
It looks like he’d been considering it for awhile, since the middle of 2012, when he took a long hiatus from reviewing Edguns,
and creating shooting and ballistics tutorials, to concentrate on family, take a spearfishing vacation in the Bahamas, and attend
the Arizona Extreme Benchrest tournament in November of 2012; in the meanwhile shooting some quick videos featuring FX and Daystate airguns.
While in Arizona he met with Frederik of FX and Stefano Gervasoni of Daystate Airguns. Then by March of this year he finished setting
up his website with those representative’s companies as advertisers.

So, Ted’s been busy with the labor-intensive preparations for his experiment and
securing the needed support, and hasn’t had much time for much else besides, of course,
his university day job…..

But I’m thinkin’ your highly informative info on the Cricket’s “xo facto” superiority to the Edgun is so persuasive,
that Ted just might do that review. Send him your Cricket– and maybe a little something for the kitty jar? 😉 — and
he might just fast-track that review for you. 😛

quote synopsys:

That being said, the magazine should index properly when cocked regardless of how fast or slow the action is cycled. There should not be some trick to get it to index properly and manually rotating the magazine is not a legitimate fix to indexing problems.

According to the ass kissing pinheads on here that is asking too much from their beloved FrankEdstein. The morons make excuses and when I read the idiot who said you can index it manually was awarded fool of the week for that statement.

Merry Christmas to all

Well the kitchen just got cooler since I removed the guy fanning the flames. 😎

Well Said! 😉

Knife

Sorry for the double Post. This Tapatalk is below any criticism ….

Sent from a Tab my wife lured me to buy … If your Aunt has a pair of hairy balls does that make “her” your Uncle ?

quote Demp223:

This isn’t heated. This is child’s play. Words on the web. Not like its a real gunfight in here where someone actually gets shot.
Been there,done that. This ain’t shit.

Very well said. This is just words on a display. Totally harmless. If you can’t stand the heat stay away from the kitchen. There’s that Yellowbelly Forum for those.

Sent from a Tab my wife lured me to buy … If your Aunt has a pair of hairy balls does that make “her” your Uncle ?

quote Demp223:

This isn’t heated. This is child’s play. Words on the web. Not like its a real gunfight in here where someone actually gets shot.
Been there,done that. This ain’t shit.

Very well said. This is just words on a display. Totally harmless. If you can’t stand the heat stay away from the kitchen. There’s that Yellowbelly Forum for those.

Sent from a Tab my wife lured me to buy … If your Aunt has a pair of hairy balls does that make “her” your Uncle ?

quote Demp223:

This isn’t heated. This is child’s play. Words on the web. Not like its a real gunfight in here where someone actually gets shot.
Been there,done that. This ain’t shit.

Finally…someone gets it!

This isn’t heated. This is child’s play. Words on the web. Not like its a real gunfight in here where someone actually gets shot.
Been there,done that. This ain’t shit.

It’s usually not that rough. Everyone just heated up with the delivery and expectations of the new matadors.

this is a rough crowd on here if you show some weekness you could be shamed badly,

quote eelect:

quote bleece:

RIDETOEAT,
Nomadic Pirate? Maybe reassess that. He contributes quite a lot of knowledge in a helpful way. His posts are unique in character and content. He’s no ranter.
He’s not associated with any such manner. He doesn’t insult. He makes points in disagreement but doesn’t offend, like normal people.
He’s the real deal. Talks about his guns, they’re actual tools for him, medium to short range expert given the terrain he deals with and the quarry.
He even told Avenger to shut up. Take a look at his posts to confirm . Yes, he agrrees with the “flawless gun” for the money reasoning.. In customer service
as we know it. He doesn’t swear at anybody. I read his posts to see what you saw, but I didn’t really have to. The good ones stick in your mind. Just as the sickly offensive ones do.
He’s more in the veteran, practical, hands-on, knows-what-he’s-talking-about camp. Doesn’t tout accuracy or distance accomplishments. Tells us where the pellets
go in the hogs, humanely when at all possible. And probably supplies the family with great non-hormoned meat kept in his freezer.

Should you decide to take him off the list, I can delete this post. Don’t want him to catch wind of this and unintentionally create a dispute. Or should I leave it? He’ll be all right, I think
Not a bad guy at all. Sometimes members deserve a Lifetime Awards type of observation about themselves, though it may have come with the purpose of a precautionary suggestion to another.

Nomadic Pirate is definitely top of my list of a very good contributer in a good way. I know he helped me a lot on my Rainstorm guns.

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Thanks for correcting me !! I posted an apology in the other thread for mixing him up with someone else !!, My bad !!!!

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