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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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quote oldgoat:

Wingman wrote:

quote :

Both.. a stupid troll… and now that no one is listening to his consistent repetitive babble he may just crawl back under his troll bridge and fester while awaiting the next billy goat gruff to unleash his filth on..

Well: he might be waiting for a billy goat gruff but; this oldgoat won’t see any of his mindless filth either!

MG MIGHT have originally had an issue with his R3M and he could have returned the gun for a replacement or refund. While he was thinking that he might have a problem, he drilled the stock for a front sling mount.

Nobody in their right mind would modify a gun if they thought that they might have an issue with the gun as it was delivered. Nobody!

Ed and Tony offered to refund the cost of the gun minus the $150.00 cost of the modified stock. A couple of people here offered to buy the stock off of MG.

To me, that sounded like a workable solution but; it wasn’t good enough for MG.

MG has accused me of being an Ed ass kisser, having my head stuck up Ed’s ass and other vulgar things.

I don’t kiss Ed’s ass! Ed and Tony have treated me great and I have had zero problems from them.

Other than the up to a year wait for my next Matador!

If I had had MG’s troubles with a new Matador, I would have emailed Tony and Ed and I am positive that I could have returned it for a replacement but, I wouldn’t have modified the Matador before I was sure that it was working properly.

I am kind of sorry that I won’t see MG’s response to my post. Kinda! His rants and personal attacks were fun to follow for a while but, they quickly got old, repetitive and boring.

This is the sort of misinformation from the ass kissing FrankEdsteing groupies that are on here.

First the gun didn’t work asshole and I told Ed and Tony to what capacity. Ed countered with he’ll refund IF the gun is as new. He knows full well that the gun is not new the moment we open them and take them out of the box. He was posturing for positioning which not one of you are bright enough to see. I did. If a gun was so miserably deficient, as a manufacturer he should have refunded in full no questions asked and be done with it. We are dealing with a greedy prick here and so he got what he deserved. The offers to buy my stock came well after all the BS hit the fan. I’m keeping the gun now and am sending it off to be fixed. Additionally there were no other guns to exchange out when I was in communication with Tony and Ed.

Go crawl back under the rock from where you came and peddle your BS twisted story to your ass kissing cronies.

quote ldp:

MG you are aware that all the people you are trying to insult will not see what you just posted correct?

And you believe that! These assholes couldn’t stand one minute without knowing what is being said or what is being said about them. They may ignore me but as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow, they’re reading and watching.

quote Hoot:

Here’s one answer to those interested in eliminating postings by individuals who lack the intelligence to behave like adults on this forum. Read the following:

Want to not see a persons posts?
Unread postby WalkonKing » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:28 am

Click on their name and choose “Add Foe”

This will make it so you do not have to read their nonsense.

But we all know you want to read it… LOL

I am blocking Machine Gun’s postings, as I would have Joe Chemtrails, and the many other psychotics/drunks who arrived at our door from time to time, and there have been several.

Come and join me, so we can get back to the positive aspects of our “brotherhood”, and start sharing ideas and positive inputs with each other. There’s no need to wallow in the dirt with Machine Gun, and his ignorant friends. He’s milking this for everything he can, and delights in making other people as angry and frustrated as he is. He feeds on your angry replies.

As for me….I’m saving up for a .22 Lelya!…or the new .30 Lelya that I’m certain is under development!

Kindest regards,

H 😯 😯 t

+1

All this talk about FrankEDstein’s gun made me take out my Super Silky Smooth Singel Shot Standard Steel breech Matador and just fondle it for a while…. 😈

Wingman wrote:

quote :

Both.. a stupid troll… and now that no one is listening to his consistent repetitive babble he may just crawl back under his troll bridge and fester while awaiting the next billy goat gruff to unleash his filth on..

Well: he might be waiting for a billy goat gruff but; this oldgoat won’t see any of his mindless filth either!

MG MIGHT have originally had an issue with his R3M and he could have returned the gun for a replacement or refund. While he was thinking that he might have a problem, he drilled the stock for a front sling mount.

Nobody in their right mind would modify a gun if they thought that they might have an issue with the gun as it was delivered. Nobody!

Ed and Tony offered to refund the cost of the gun minus the $150.00 cost of the modified stock. A couple of people here offered to buy the stock off of MG.

To me, that sounded like a workable solution but; it wasn’t good enough for MG.

MG has accused me of being an Ed ass kisser, having my head stuck up Ed’s ass and other vulgar things.

I don’t kiss Ed’s ass! Ed and Tony have treated me great and I have had zero problems from them.

Other than the up to a year wait for my next Matador!

If I had had MG’s troubles with a new Matador, I would have emailed Tony and Ed and I am positive that I could have returned it for a replacement but, I wouldn’t have modified the Matador before I was sure that it was working properly.

I am kind of sorry that I won’t see MG’s response to my post. Kinda! His rants and personal attacks were fun to follow for a while but, they quickly got old, repetitive and boring.

quote Hoot:

It performs so well for something so small!

Are you quoting your wife now again, Uncle ??

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2. This POS iPhone sucks though …

I would agree completely !!! 😀 Well said…………

RIDETOEAT,
Nomadic Pirate? Maybe reassess that. He contributes quite a lot of knowledge in a helpful way. His posts are unique in character and content. He’s no ranter.
He’s not associated with any such manner. He doesn’t insult. He makes points in disagreement but doesn’t offend, like normal people.
He’s the real deal. Talks about his guns, they’re actual tools for him, medium to short range expert given the terrain he deals with and the quarry.
He even told Avenger to shut up. Take a look at his posts to confirm . Yes, he agrrees with the “flawless gun” for the money reasoning.. In customer service
as we know it. He doesn’t swear at anybody. I read his posts to see what you saw, but I didn’t really have to. The good ones stick in your mind. Just as the sickly offensive ones do.
He’s more in the veteran, practical, hands-on, knows-what-he’s-talking-about camp. Doesn’t tout accuracy or distance accomplishments. Tells us where the pellets
go in the hogs, humanely when at all possible. And probably supplies the family with great non-hormoned meat kept in his freezer.

Should you decide to take him off the list, I can delete this post. Don’t want him to catch wind of this and unintentionally create a dispute. Or should I leave it? He’ll be all right, I think
Not a bad guy at all. Sometimes members deserve a Lifetime Awards type of observation about themselves, though it may have come with the purpose of a precautionary suggestion to another.

Done! No more MG :4: someone should start a poll on it.

MG you are aware that all the people you are trying to insult will not see what you just posted correct?

quote RIDETOEAT:

Lets start a Leyla list to present to Tony, I am in on a .22 but need time to recover before they arrive but that is usually built into the program.

What a bunch of ass kissing faggots! A Leyla list to present to Tony – the Grand Poobah! 😆

quote bleece:

Now we just have dmon1141 left. Not quite up to MG’s level.
Not the same passion, problem isn’t really his.
Tries to top his master MG I see.
Entertaining. Nothing serious. More
palatable portion and proportion of negativity. 😆

I hit all 4 , seemed willing to fan flames with no dog in the fight. if I’m wrong, let me know. I like reading it all if it makes a positive contribution, ” 0″ if it does not.

Nomadic Pirate
Dman
MG
Avenger

quote SteHughes90:

Not sure if machine gun is trolling or just stupid

Both.. a stupid troll… and now that no one is listening to his consistent repetitive babble he may just crawl back under his troll bridge and fester while awaiting the next billy goat gruff to unleash his filth on..
There is a perfect place for him and anyone stupid enough to believe his agenda driven bullshit and that is the Yellow forum. There are plenty of boys like him there who are also proficient in ass touching and Im sure they will offer him plenty of support and man cuddles should Ed or anyone else hurt his precious feelings again..

:mrgreen: Mo Foe’d

Lets start a Leyla list to present to Tony, I am in on a .22 but need time to recover before they arrive but that is usually built into the program.

Now we just have dmon1141 left. Not quite up to MG’s level.
Not the same passion, problem isn’t really his.
Tries to top his master MG I see.
Entertaining. Nothing serious. More
palatable portion and proportion of negativity. 😆

When I first saw a Lelya I thought it was a beautiful gun but I think it would be too small small for me. Ive already started saving for my next rifle, thinking maybe a FX. Ill wait and see what they do with the Bobcat first as that would be one of the candidates. The others would be the Kricket or maybe another Matador but in 22 this time, but now that Ive tried the 25, that 30 sounds fun too. Ill have to work on cutting back some trees this summer for a longer range though.

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