WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?
To the airgun community:
I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.
Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.
Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031
Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!
So what is a FrankEdstein?
There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.
The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.
Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.
Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.
Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!
I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.
To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:
Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!
He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.
Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…
Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.
He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.
And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.
He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.
Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.
FrankEdstein guns anyone?
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Mo Foe’d
Well: he might be waiting for a billy goat gruff but; this oldgoat won’t see any of his mindless filth either!
MG MIGHT have originally had an issue with his R3M and he could have returned the gun for a replacement or refund. While he was thinking that he might have a problem, he drilled the stock for a front sling mount.
Nobody in their right mind would modify a gun if they thought that they might have an issue with the gun as it was delivered. Nobody!
Ed and Tony offered to refund the cost of the gun minus the $150.00 cost of the modified stock. A couple of people here offered to buy the stock off of MG.
To me, that sounded like a workable solution but; it wasn’t good enough for MG.
MG has accused me of being an Ed ass kisser, having my head stuck up Ed’s ass and other vulgar things.
I don’t kiss Ed’s ass! Ed and Tony have treated me great and I have had zero problems from them.
Other than the up to a year wait for my next Matador!
If I had had MG’s troubles with a new Matador, I would have emailed Tony and Ed and I am positive that I could have returned it for a replacement but, I wouldn’t have modified the Matador before I was sure that it was working properly.
I am kind of sorry that I won’t see MG’s response to my post. Kinda! His rants and personal attacks were fun to follow for a while but, they quickly got old, repetitive and boring.
This is the sort of misinformation from the ass kissing FrankEdsteing groupies that are on here.
First the gun didn’t work asshole and I told Ed and Tony to what capacity. Ed countered with he’ll refund IF the gun is as new. He knows full well that the gun is not new the moment we open them and take them out of the box. He was posturing for positioning which not one of you are bright enough to see. I did. If a gun was so miserably deficient, as a manufacturer he should have refunded in full no questions asked and be done with it. We are dealing with a greedy prick here and so he got what he deserved. The offers to buy my stock came well after all the BS hit the fan. I’m keeping the gun now and am sending it off to be fixed. Additionally there were no other guns to exchange out when I was in communication with Tony and Ed.
Go crawl back under the rock from where you came and peddle your BS twisted story to your ass kissing cronies.