My Edgun R3 is finally here!
Edgun R3 .25 Long serial #0249 finally arrives after a long but very worthwhile wait.
Tony did a great job packing. The rifle was double boxed along with thick protective foam wrapped around each end and popcorn to fill any additional gaps.
This shipment has the new stainless steel bolt and a new breech. Internally it also has a new and more efficient valve.
The trigger doesn’t look like it has changed.
She will be getting a new scope soon but for now is wearing the Mueller 4.5-14×40 Tactical scope http://muelleroptics.com/mt451440
Thank you Ed! Thank you Tony!
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I saw somewhere where someone adjusted the regulator from the fill tube end so if using a special tool for indexing the adjustment screw of the regulator is possible this way then it may in fact be a viable way for some to adjust the regulator especially if one finds himself adjusting the regulator often. Reason of thought here would be that some have found that removal of the breach screws often has lead to not being able to tighten the screws down due to damage of female threads and having to replace the screws with longer ones. I have not had this issue myself but it’s nice to know there’s more than one way to skin a cat.
At that point though it would only take 30 more seconds to remove the regulator/valve housing. I just don’t think it would be worth the trouble due to the ease of just removing it for adjustment.
With some hex rod you could rig something up real easy
I thought of the same thing yesterday. Once you remove that locking screw the actual adjustment screw on my new Edgun was an allen head so you would need a really long allen wrench.
oldgoat, was the regulator adjustment screw on your new Edgun also allen head like mine?
So I watched the video and learned a lot.
My question is,
If I had a long enough flathead screw driver, could I adjust the reg while still in the gun by only removing the end plug?
4:45 turned out to work very well. I am in the low 880s with a EV of 10 fps or so. I might turn the HST up a little and see how many reguladed shots I get in the mid 880s. Right now I am getting 42-43 regulated shots in the low 880s and I want to see how many shots I will lose by turning the HST up a little.
That will have to wait till next week.
I will try to post the string later.
Got to shoot my R3 25 standard today. It was set to shoot the 25.4 grain JSBs at a max of 957. I was going to turn the reg clockwise 1/3 turn out until Varminter posted he used 1/2 turn.
I tried 1/2 out and my max speed was 872. I have just reset the reg at 4:45 and I am going to see how that does.
How much did you have to turn your reg clockwise to get your current string?
Yes I got lucky and only adjusted the regulator one time! I took a guess based on your previous posts and what you had to do to get close and decided to start by turning the Reg. in clockwise half a turn (12 o’clock to 6 o’clock) and then go from there. I also got lucky and only took 8 shots while adjusting the HST to get to the numbers in my longer shot string. Taking your advice has been working out for me so maybe I should play Lotto today. 😆
I am curious and will eventually tinker some more but I’ll probably just leave it as is for a little while and shoot more first. When I’m ready to tinker again I’ll just mark where I’m currently at then turn HST in a little more to find the peak and then go from there.
Strietwise, yes, after a reg adjustment, turn the HST out 2 turns and then slowly turn it back in until you get the max speed. If you are looking for a max of 880-890 and you get a max of 910-920, you might be able to just turn the HST back out until you are at 880-890, refill the gun and shoot a string.
If your max speed is over 920, the reg is still slightly high and you will have to turn it down a little more. If your max speed is over 920 and you just turn the HST out some, you will get a hump at the end of the shot string.
Thanks for the suggestions. One additional question. If I adjust the reg and back the HST out 2 full turns do i start start turning it in until I get to my desired speed or do I start turning it in until I get max speed? If the latter then I assume I re adjust reg until the max speed is what I want.
Holy shit. I am starting to sound like I know what I am talking about.
Strietwise, It looks like your reg is a little high. A half turn clockwise might be a little too much for a first try. 1/3 turn clockwise might be a better starting point.
It usually takes a couple of reg and HST adjustments to get the gun setup correctly.
Keep us posted on your progress.
Varminter, thanks for the kind words! 😳
That string looks very good!
The older R2.5 and R3 25 longs got around 70 regulated shots. If you add the 8 other shots that didn’t get cronied and fill to 3100 psi, you should be at 70 shots.
Your EV of 12 fps could be improved a little; I have seen shot string EVs of 8-9fps when tuning my guns and others have posted some here also. I really doubt that you would notice a 12 fps variation while shooting 100 yard groups.
If you wanted play with the gun some more, you might see what your max speed is by adjusting the HST screw but, as flat as your string is, I think that you are very close to optimum and won’t be able to improve things much.
Dvdrw says that the speeds will start climbing after 1500-2000 shots so, you might be best off by just shooting the gun and putting it back on the crony after 1500-2000 shots and see where the speeds are.
Did it take you just one reg adjustment to get that flat string? If so, you are very lucky and you need to buy some lotto tickets! Hell, buy a bunch of lotto tickets and I will go in half with you on them!
How much did you have to turn your reg clockwise to get your current string?
I am gonna put a scope on my R3 25 standard and head to the basement right now to see what speeds it shoots.
Just make sure you turn the HST out two full turns from the factory setting first then you can start turning HST in a little at a time until you get your desired speed.
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21283&highlight=removing+adjusting+r3s+regulator
Here is the link to oldgoat’s video that helped me. It also has the link on how to depressurize your rifle. I would shoot your rifle until it is at 100 bar before you try to remove the air. I struggled with it until I did this first.
Am I doing this right? I have a new R3 .22. Long.
Out of the box it was shooting JSB 15.9 at 1050 fps. I wanted to get it in the 920 fps range so I turned the HST 1 full revolution ccw and shot this string. I am new to this but if I understand OldGoat correctly to level this string out I need to turn the reg 1/2 turn (6:00) in and then start turning the HST in until I max out fps. Hopefully that will be close to my desired speed. Thoughts?
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Anytime you want to shoot let me know
Dennis
Dennis, that sounds great! I would love to meet up and shoot. Where do you shoot?
Bobby
20yds in my backyard regularly. My in-laws have 12 acres in Lincoln where I’ll play for a bit. My buddies uncle has 40 acres in Pilot Hill that backs up to BLM land where we hunt all year. I’ll shoot at Ione for Jim’s benchrest events as well.