Ranger 45
Well I have a tracking number for the Ranger 45 that was assembled, test fired, chronyed, and shipped today.
28 inch barrel, standard stock and black crerakote finish, $1230 dollars including shipping.
To early to get the arrival date, it is not in the system yet.
Chrony numbers were:
Round ball. low setting 3000 PSI……1018 FPS
225………. low setting 3000 PSI……..877 FPS
405 shot 1 hi setting 4500 PSI………804 FPS
340 shot 2 hi setting 4500 PSI………843 FPS
These numbers will improve by 30 to 50 FPS as the rifle breaks in.
Regards,
Roachcreek
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Well I will have to see what happens . I am very happy with what I have and it will do a Elk or bear if I choose to go after them . I have a pipe dream that I would like to have materialize . And it would be easier with the ranger . If it can be done at all . Then again I might just forget it and be content with what I have now .Marvin
Once you have a Ranger 45 you only need to order a upper/barrel in 58 and you have a completley different rifle.
I know a lot of you want 30’s and 375’s, but if Dan gets the 20 gauge on line the world of air guns will never be the same.
There is no reson we can’t be shooting an ounce of shot at 900 FPS, think about using that at the bird feeder that for a while.
Regards,
Roachcreek
Marvin , i would think that gun would sell fast ! yes i think you will buy a new ranger, i am sure of it , i know you are not gonna just let us have all the ranger shooting fun ! HA ! HA !
I agree completely.
Roachcreek
If I sell it I will buy a Ranger . But I will not give that rifle away . At the time I bought that rifle I was told that it was going to be the last one he would build and It would be his best Gargoyle .As well as the only one in the 48 states like it . Now some one may have convinced him to do another one for all I know . But I have a reason for wanting the Ranger plat-forum . But if things do not come together as I need them to then I will keep the Gargoyle . It is one well built accurate rifle for sure . Marvin
Marvin,
Yes I did , but if the 360 flies straight it may get my attention, at a less dent in the family budget. That 425 is aluminum so it will not rust sitting idle on the shelf.
Now , more importantly Marvin, why are you selling that Gargoyle? I assume it is not to get a Mrod, your not building funds for a Ranger are you. 😆
I sold my first born into slavery to get my Ranger.
regards,
Roachcreek
Regards,
Roachcreek
HA ! HA ! ya i can’t wait to see what this 36inch set up does , i am used to a heavy gun, shooting my sumatra and heavy springers , some times i would hike in a few miles with 2 guns up in the mountains around Washougal Washington kinda by the washougal motocross track area , but higher where those GIANT CLYDESDALE ELK ROAM !
i have seen a real monster up there , i think if ya shot him …it would just piss him off !!!! and then he might eat you for dinner !!! HA ! HA !
yotes are all around our area , one larger male is always running around our neighborhood , once he was just strolling down our street , i was ridding my mt bike and snuck up on him about 5 ft away , i could not believe i got that close , he must of been focused on something else , scared the hell out of him ! he ran into the woods about 20 yards then stoped looked back at me like -where the hell did you come from
hard to shoot them at night since there are so many dogs that run around here , don’t want to shoot the wrong one , since they always come over to my house to chase tennis balls, i hit for them ,we have a bunch of labs /retrievers here
the dumbest things around here are my rabbits ! ha ! they eat grass right around my target range !! in front of the back stop ! , a couple of times i have been shooting and seen something move in my scope off to the side , looked up and there is the rabbit eating grass not 4 feet from my metal spinning targets while i am shooting them , the dam-dest thing i have ever saw , i will get some pics next time they do this, you guys will get a kick out of it ,or maybe do a video better yet , i won’t shoot them cause it’s to dam funny to watch this all happen ! over ,and over ! HA ! HA !
RC may be I am getting confused .But I thought you ordered a 425 grain mold for elk hunting . Marvin
Butcher,
I had a love affair with the Mdl 29 S&W, Elmer Keiths writings and 250 Keith bullets at 1000FPS for years, I cast them onto a sponge in a 5 gallon buket of water, sized them and lubed them right away and let them set.
I did shoulder only shots on deer and never recovered a slug, bone or otherwise.
The only time I found a use for HP’s was on small game and a fellow named Jerome Jackson, and after passing thru him, it buried itself in pine paneling about a half inch, I hunted that slug down after we secured what was left of him and it was not until I found it that I breathed a sigh of relief, I still have that slug somewhere around here.
So when I saw that add about the 360’s and the 300 grain bullets, I decided to try them instead of buying a furnace to cast elk bullets.
My boy did shoot a huge cow elk with the Mdl 29 at 50 yards thru both shoulders with a 320 I cast from a NEI mold and WW’s but did not temper, it was under the skin on the far side, but you could see her when she went down so there was no need for two bleeding holes for tracking.
I also used those bullets for drilling holes for lag screws on gate posts and in my barn when I built it, being afraid of ladders, there is a story there, I would rather shoot a hole than drill it with one of those wrist sanpping 1/2 inch drills, stand 8 feet up on a ladder.
regards,
Roachcreek
I think I will order both the 300 grain bullet and the 360 gas checked and give them a try, both would work on elk and deer and be flat shooting. At 930 for the 360 and 1000 for the 300 they would be barnstormers.
They should shoot flat for 440 yards and then start climbing. 😆
Regards,
Roachcreek
The 360grain WFN shot from the Ranger .45 on high power is my idea of an Elk hunting set-up. That’s already as heavy as the heaviest .45Colt slug. If a 255grainKeith .45Colt@900fps can travel a large deer lengthwise@100yards, than I have to feel pretty confident in the abilities of the 360grainWFN@50yards on Elk.
The harder BHN16 alloy should prove to be advantageous should heavy bone be hit……might come in handy on the exit of a quartering-away shot. I’m told the shoulder joints of deer can put a stop to a boolit right quick, much less the shoudler joint of an Elk.
Well Dan, I hate to tell you this, but he cut 8 inches off your barrel and sent it to me. 😛
Regards,
Roachcreek
I think I will order both the 300 grain bullet and the 360 gas checked and give them a try, both would work on elk and deer and be flat shooting. At 930 for the 360 and 1000 for the 300 they would be barnstormers.
They should shoot flat for 440 yards and then start climbing. 😆
Regards,
Roachcreek
ya those should be real smashers ! both of those look to be good , i would think , and i think i might order a chunk of those as well , and use the 250g rn fp for target stuff ,
i talked to Dan today he said friday or monday my gun will be shiped out , so now it is my turn for tracking insanity ! HA ! HA!
Slayer,
Butcher, sorry I thought that was Slayer asking that.
Yes, both bulls and cows can be called in with a “cow Talk.”
It sounds a lot like a cat meowing, I have watched cows walking by themselves, calling every few minutes trying to find the companionship of the herd.
During archery season most successful hunters will use both the bugle and the cow talk. There is sometimes a wish to be very realistic in calling bulls, but I have had times while calling out for a misplaced hunter that a bull will answer me, this is a common occurance in the fall. Most associate the bugle with warm september mating season, but I have bugled in bulls for the kill in November in the middle of a blizzard.
Once my son David called in 22 head into a clearing 400 yards above our house in the early morning light, there were two very large branch antlered bulls in the herd, you could see their ivory tips thru the haze of morning, he was 7 at the time and of course was a few years away from puberty, but the tone of his unaided voice was just the right pitch for calling. I got the family out of bed when I had heard them calling when it was still dark, we stood in the yard while David called them in, both family groups watching each other in curiosity.
To me elk are the most magnificant animal in the forest, they resemble a prehistoric mammal the way the run and if you have had them jump and run in front of your car or snomoblile, it is such a special experience. I have watched cows in a string of 30, where every two hundred yards the rear cow wheels around to test the air, I have trailed calves and been ready to shoot, and seen the tracks of the mothers come in and herd their offspring away from me.
Bulls are fun to watch, they have a unique way of covering ground in that every hundred yards or so they take a quick and abrupt course correction, usually at least 45 degrees, it is said they do this to avoid amush from cougars, and it has always made sence to me. THey also show distaste for being jumped from their beds and appear angry at times as they storm away
I kill them, but I have the upmost respect for them, I am usually quietly talking to them under my breath, while pumping lead into their massive bodys, and I always sit quietly against the still warm steaming carcass and thank them for their gift to my family.
Regards,
Roachcreek
Well first I have to get a tag, to do that I have to enter a drawing for the specific season and the specific area that I wish to hunt.
I will apply for the cow season in the area that my old house is in. The new owner has always invited me to stay there if I wish so I will take him up on that, during that time frame the house will be empty and there will be considerable snow on the ground.
Hopefully I will draw a tag, then the hunt will take place over a 10 day hunt during the period around Thanksgiving.
I prefer to hunt cows, altho sometimes they are more difficult that bulls. Bulls tend to be solitary in that area and therefore you only deal with one set of eyes, whereas cows are usualy in small herds of up to 12 or more, giving them several pretty good sentinels,
But mostly I like cow meat better, a bull unless it is a spike usually tastes like you pissed on the meat, but that is just my opinion after feeding it to the kids for years. And I find eating horns rather difficult.
If it all works out, I will draw a cow tag, and find a nice yearling cow. Barring that and not drawing a tag, I will go for the archery hunt which is in the last week of Auugust and runs thru to the third weekend of September. The archery hunt is a buy tag and hunt season and is not usually restricted to any particular hunting unit and is an either sex hunt.
Regards,
Roachcreek
I want a piece of this action.
Can cow elk be called in with a cow elk call?
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Marvin,
Either way I have faith that your dream will come true.
Now don’t take that to mean we would sleep in the same sleeping bag at elk camp. 😆 WOK would take advantage of your naivety when asking you to bugle, where as Tron would ask you to pet his frightened kitty, whatever that may mean. 😛
That Gargoyle caught my eye as the first big bore that was applicable for what I wanted it to do, if Dan had not deloped the Ranger and was still making the Gargoyle, I would own one now. So I have no doubt you can make do with it.
Dak has never caught my interest, and as the first maker of big bores I studied, it may not be fair to him, for I did not personaly like his style and his execution of design, as a pioneer in this development for me to make such a statement about his rifles may seem unfair, but it is my taste that dictates these statements.
However, when I look at the developemental history of big bores, and at the same time realize that Dan Mcvey has cashed in on that development and in doing so is a latter day Eli Whitney with his CNC application to the art of the big bore and the resultant interchangalbe parts that Whitney was famous for, he has to rise to the top of the pack.
At the same time Haley is hit or miss with his shop practices, some of his consumers have had bad luck, my good freind RJ Porter has hit a high water mark it seems with the Jack Haley rilfes, and it may turn out that they will all from here on out possess that quality, I don’t know him or his rifles but I hope he hits a home run.
But the fact is Dan Mcveys rifles are all like that, they have quality and expertise of workmanship built in, as some say they may lack design advancements, I counter those statemanets in that Dan Mcvey has taken a design feature to a new level and in doing so has surpassed the concept of the original design.
All in all, it is all good, we all stand at that same threshold that our forebearers did in the 1880’s when cartridge rifle systems were being developed, it is a exciting time to be in the sport.
Regards,
Roachcreek