The Airforce Bottle Regulator is here!
Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am pleased to announce that the Airforce bottle regulator is complete and I have the distinct honor to offer them for sale.
They have the M18 x 1.5 threadpitch for the Airforce bottle on one end and the .875-20UNEF threads for the E-TaCREG on the other.
The length and diameter are identical to the other JDS Airman regs.
I will be stocking them here at E-TaC central. The cost is $90 shipped, same as the E-TaCREG. CONUS shipping is included.
You can choose your output pressure from 1200-2500psi.
Here is a picture.
I have to get my tank filled (AGAAIN!!!) and I’ll get a shot count number for the 2000psi output.
Regards,
Jim
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I’m a martyr to the cause, what can I say! Made the old eyes water a bit though…
Eddie, I installed the 18″ today.
With my first set of spacers I was shooting the JSBs at 850 for 70 😯 shots with VERY good accuracy. Then I upped the sapcer a bit to shoot at 890-900 for 50 shots 😯 with VERY good accuracy- 896,906,897,891,891 then the combro ran out of batteries AGAIN 😡 Waiting on deliver of more batteries. I’ve now installed more spacers (preload/powerwheel-don’t have the powerwheel here- and its shooting very hot, just don’t know how hot yet until combro been fed some more juice. Definately wasting air with this extra preload/powerwheel, so need to calm it down again. Will give you some decent numbers hopefully tomorrow.
As I see it, the Regulator provides a consistent preloaded charge at both a specific PSI and a consistent volume of air. The end results is a much more consistent charge to propel the pellet.
The unregulated PCP is constantly reducing it’s PSI and the volume of air used for each shot. The tank is for an instant open to the breech and barrel. This uses more air even though the initial PSI may have been the same.
To much air can slow down a pellet as well. So, the regulated PCP may shoot faster or slower than an unregulated PCP at the same PSI depending on the barrel length and how efficient the volume of air is for the particular pellet.
ok makes sense now that you put it in those terms! I guess if I lower my wants a bit to 920 or so things would look better for a regulated set up, I will have to shoot my Condor at some lower fps to see how it shoots I don’t usually go that low but if I am going to stay with an 18 inch barrel I am going to have to lower my fps I can see that allready or go with a 24 inch barrel broom stick 😯 It would be silly to get an ETac and Reg set up and have 10 shots! kind of silly to say the least, That is the whole reason for going Reg consistent fps and high shot count! Shit this doesn’t have to be confusing 🙄 thanks Pab I will get it sooner or later!!!!!!!!
Its because even though you are only at 2400 and getting those big numbers, your valve is dipping into a huge(relatively) reservoir of air,ie the whole tank itself. This gives out a lot of air, pushing the pellet up to higher speeds. With a reg’ its a much smaller reservoir of air. This means the shots are more consistent AND save on a lot of wasted air.
Ok Pab thanks and thanks to you to Jim with Kids sick you have your hands full I have been there done that several times! now I do it with the grandkids 😯 I have a 24 inch barrel but I have gotten used to the 18 inch barrel I love the length compared to the 24 BUT that doesn’t mean I can’t go back to it, It just makes the Condor a long drink of water 🙄 🙄 There is one thing I don’t quite understand IMAGINE THAT 😯 ok right now I have a stock Condor with an 18 inch barrel on it, here is what I am getting with this gun at a 2400 fill down to 1600 with JSB 18.1 gr pellets, I can get 20 shots starts out at 988 down to 950 shots 21 through 30 are 943 to 892 which is not a bad string with a bit more starting pressure say 2600 I would probably get a pretty good string going! Ok if I can do this with a stock gun why would I not be able to get in the 930’s to 950 range with an Etac Reg set up am I missing something here? And I don’t need to be in the 950 just a number I thought would be doable! I have some 40 yard targets that are .375 for 5 shots this barrel will shoot well and some 65 yard targets at .750. I am not trying to be a pain well not much of one anyway LOL!! but is there something here I just can’t seem to figure out 😯
Eddie, I’ve got an 18″ LW .22 barrel and some 18g JSBs. I’ll put it in and test it on Friday which will give you your answer. I’m using a 53cui bottle not the AF bottle so my shot count will be higher than the AF bottle
Eddie, you want to put 18g at around 950 odd fps?
2200 would put them around 1000. Decrease speed to 950 would then give you what, 15-20 shots…ish?
18″ barrel is needing a lot of air to push the pellets up to the right speed. A longer barrel uses less air for same speed. Can you tape some extra barrel on there? Maybe use some superglue and a bit of old copper pipe. If you haven’t got tape or superglue, use some string. Will be the reverse of a smooth twist barrel. I’m sure it would be stable and accurate. 😎
Pab,
The 2500psi reg puts 21 gr at 960ish, not the 2200.
The good news is I’ve got a really good start on a much more efficient valve that will (hopefully) get a bigger blast for the short barrel stuff.
We also prefer Duct Tape for our modifications on this side of the pond. You can even get it in camouflage for the ultimate in stealth.
Jim
Damn you Yanks with ya’ high tech’ Duct tape… 😎
Wow, 2500 for 960 on 18″ ?
Just shows how much more efficient the extra 6″ is. THAT’S what my wife has been talking about, I get it now…… 😳
Eddie, you want to put 18g at around 950 odd fps?
2200 would put them around 1000. Decrease speed to 950 would then give you what, 15-20 shots…ish?
18″ barrel is needing a lot of air to push the pellets up to the right speed. A longer barrel uses less air for same speed. Can you tape some extra barrel on there? Maybe use some superglue and a bit of old copper pipe. If you haven’t got tape or superglue, use some string. Will be the reverse of a smooth twist barrel. I’m sure it would be stable and accurate. 😎
Pab,
The 2500psi reg puts 21 gr at 960ish, not the 2200.
The good news is I’ve got a really good start on a much more efficient valve that will (hopefully) get a bigger blast for the short barrel stuff.
We also prefer Duct Tape for our modifications on this side of the pond. You can even get it in camouflage for the ultimate in stealth.
Jim
hmmmmm more stuff from the Secret Squirrel Lab of MM? Looking forward to seeing it! Meanwhile, I am still on my first fill on that .177 Talon!!!!
Eddie, you want to put 18g at around 950 odd fps?
2200 would put them around 1000. Decrease speed to 950 would then give you what, 15-20 shots…ish?
18″ barrel is needing a lot of air to push the pellets up to the right speed. A longer barrel uses less air for same speed. Can you tape some extra barrel on there? Maybe use some superglue and a bit of old copper pipe. If you haven’t got tape or superglue, use some string. Will be the reverse of a smooth twist barrel. I’m sure it would be stable and accurate. 😎
Pab,
The 2500psi reg puts 21 gr at 960ish, not the 2200.
The good news is I’ve got a really good start on a much more efficient valve that will (hopefully) get a bigger blast for the short barrel stuff.
We also prefer Duct Tape for our modifications on this side of the pond. You can even get it in camouflage for the ultimate in stealth.
Jim
So MM, 2200 puts 21g at 960 only for 9 shots max?
Eddie, you want to put 18g at around 950 odd fps?
2200 would put them around 1000. Decrease speed to 950 would then give you what, 15-20 shots…ish?
18″ barrel is needing a lot of air to push the pellets up to the right speed. A longer barrel uses less air for same speed. Can you tape some extra barrel on there? Maybe use some superglue and a bit of old copper pipe. If you haven’t got tape or superglue, use some string. Will be the reverse of a smooth twist barrel. I’m sure it would be stable and accurate. 😎
Eddie,
I just did some testing for another member on the 18″ barrel trying to push some Kodiaks (21gr) to 990. It is not possible in this barrel length. 960fps is; but only for about 8-9 shots. Bad idea in my opinion.
At your power requirement, I would recommend just going with the 2500psi out. You can dial it back if it’s too hot (YEAH, RIGHT). It is not as easy to “up” a 2200psi reg if you are not satisfied. I’ll toss some 18.1 out of a 2500psi as time allows…
…I’ve got two boys with strep throat (AGAIN)…
Shot count will be the victim in this power struggle.
Regards,
JIm
I think 2200 PSI reg will get you there.
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I like you appearing and dissapearing critter Pab Fox ??