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WARNING: Do You Own A FrankEdstein EdGun?

To the airgun community:

I believe this is a necessary post here because of the poor business ethics that Dr. FrankEdstein poses on the airgun community. Your investment is at risk here. Notice I said ‘IS’ at risk because it certainly is.

Here’s my take on the situation. I believe and with good cause that Ed is after only one thing and that is your money. He doesn’t stand behind his product but most of the ass-kissers on here think that he does. How quickly we forget about the fiasco we had regarding the damaged guns being delivered and no resolution in sight for that issue. It took this forum to post a ‘sticky’ and many months before the resolution was in place. In my books, that is not customer service.

Here is the thread you all seem to have forgotten:
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=24031

Moving right along here, there are many of us who own FrankEdsteins! What is a FranEdstein? It is a cobbled together Edgun using left over parts from other models with new parts to create the illusion of a new model. Were we ever notified of this incarnation? No, none of us were but Ed sold them to us while he moved out old inventory which he could no longer sell. This is fact gentlemen. They were having difficulty selling singe shot Edguns because the multi-shot was being released and they wanted the same money for the single shot as they did for the multi shot. Greed!

So what is a FrankEdstein?

There was an over abundance of R3’s in stock which are single shot guns. What they did was take the gun assembly and remove the single shot capability and then added a new multi-shot upgrade to the single shot gun and put this into a new R3M wood stock. The single shot gun assembly is shown in photo #1 below without the cut-out for the magazines.

The new genuine multi-shot R3M is shown in photo #2 which clearly shows the cut-outs for the magazines.

Now, ask yourself this question: if you want a multi-shot, which model do you want? Obviously model #2 because it has the space for the magazines and was manufactured for this purpose. Would you want a multi-shot with the single shot frame and no place to put the magazines? Of course not, especially since there is a model that has the cut-outs.

Well gentlemen, we all invested $2k in these FrankEdsteins and which model do you think will hold resale value and be more in demand? Certainly not the Model #1.

Were we told about this? Were we offered the opportunity to make a choice? Was there even a slight discount for the Model #1 because it was a FrankEdstein? The answers are No, No and No!

I’m sure some of the ass-kissers own FrankEdsteins and they’re probably thrilled and proud to be able to own the FrankEdstein.

To illustrate Dr. FrankEdstein’s contempt and arrogance to the airgun community we post some of his comments below for your reading pleasure:

Mr. Ed stated, that he has“the right to change everything in the gun without noticing the clients”! And then he adds more BS as long as “the changes are pointed to improve the gun”!

He really means as long as the changes are pointed to improve Ed’s financial wealth.

Mr. Ed is a disgrace not to mention highly unethical and dishonest. Let me explain…

Mr. Ed does have the right to change the gun and he does have the right to run his business his way but he does not have the right to take advantage of his clients nor does he have the right to be sneaky as he is. Honest, respectful and ethical businessmen would notify the client that a new model is also available and offer the client the choice. Offering the client, the choice is not in Mr. Ed’s best interest because he needed to move out single shot assemblies! And, he see’s nothing wrong with clients being frustrated; read on and you’ll see my point.

He then has the audacity to state, “can you imagine how the last buyers of single shot Matadors were frustrated when they saw in a couple of weeks that someone got multi shot Matador for the same price”.

And, he sees nothing wrong with that and has the audacity to publish it.

He doesn’t care as long as whatever you do puts money in his pocket and as long as it is best for Ed.

Friends: once you fork over the hard cold cash, you are on your own. To this, Dr. FranEdstein counters with I will refund you if the gun is in ‘new condition’. No one has a new gun 10 minutes after they open the box. In my case, I put a rail on the stock for a bipod and Dr. FrankEdsteing knows that we all do this. Dr. FrankEdstein knows this and as such his ‘refund’ is hollow. He did offer a refund for the gun assembly minus the stock which is unacceptable because I have no use for the stock. He sold me a FrankEdstein gun with cocking and indexing issues. It is a bastard gun. I own 4 Edgun’s. All previous models were fine so I expected this one to function properly as well. It did not and as such the manufacturer has the responsibility to refund in full as no other guns are available. If you get a good gun, great but I’m the living proof that if there is an issue, you are on your own.

FrankEdstein guns anyone?

WE’LL CALL THIS MODEL #1

WE’LL CALL THIS ONE MODEL #2

EdGun

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I should get my wife on this forum, it’s better than the Jerry Springer show! Who needs daytime soap opera when you have reality online drama :popcorn:

let’s get back to the program… So who called who a fag and what are you going to do about it????

Interesting that other than MG, the most vocal negative posts are from users who have joined recently.

Will Avdg gallery in Germany in 2014

Take the money and run away greed

quote tcmalker:

Fuck you and give MG back his damn money. You’re the ignorant one not us Americans! You will not get money from me! You think you got the only bullpup on the market? Kalibr Cricket is WAY better and I will be buying one.

MG’s lessons didn’t passed away, you are dood follower, at least in the way of communicating. To tell you truth I am glad you will not give me money to me and turn to Kalibr, the more so unstable clients he has the better for me 🙂

You should do it out of respect for the customers u still have!!

quote WalkonKing:

quote Ed:

quote dman1114:

I think TAG administraion is happier by that fact, more people will come here.

We don’t care at all really. This forum was opened because the members wanted a place to discuss bull pups without all the censorship of other forums.

If we nuked this forum it would be fine with me and the other Admin here.

The only reason I even am reading this forum is because of the current drama. :12:

I tried to sound ironically but failed due to the pour language 🙁

quote Ed:

quote dman1114:

ED,

Let’s put this to bed. Make it right even if it cost u a stock.

You didn’t understand, the point is not money for stock or the gun, I can easily spend money to satisfy the client, but not in this particulary case, even if it would cost me total ignorance from the American customers. I never ever allowed anybody to behaive with me such a way, so I have no intention to make any exclusion.

As for me banned at Yellow — great, I think TAG administraion is happier by that fact, more people will come here. We used to have very popular forum at airgun.ru it was very vivid, there were many clever and interesting people unless the new administrator decided to force everybody to follow his point of view, half a year and forum died 🙂

Fuck you and give MG back his damn money. You’re the ignorant one not us Americans! You will not get money from me! You think you got the only bullpup on the market? Kalibr Cricket is WAY better and I will be buying one.

Yeh and I’m getting anonymous emails from those that kiss ASS!! You people think ur slick. If your gonna send me an email through an anonymous email server that’s pretty low. Don’t even have the balls , o wait. Eds got them!!

This one has to be the best Forum on the entire WWW. Good people, anything goes and no one is safe. Like it should be.

quote Sir Ville:

Come on – admit it , you´re taking a sneak peak every now and then. I don´t think any other Forum at TAG has as many idiots as we have here in the BP section. Our mere existence has brung down the collective niveau of intelligence of the entire TAG Forum by several notches – maybe even for all humankind , It´s that bad … 😯

LOL…. I have not read this forum in months. The other day my inbox was getting hit with complaints about this place :8:

I talked to Talontunes Tony and he had no idea the drama going on here…lol

We leave you guys alone and everyone looses their blob 😛

Walkonking that was eds quote…

quote WalkonKing:

This forum was opened because the members wanted a place to discuss bull pups without all the censorship of other forums.

And BTW, we do greatly appreciate that. I would much rather have to filter the posts that I’m not interested in than guess at what has been censored.

quote WalkonKing:

quote Ed:

quote dman1114:

I think TAG administraion is happier by that fact, more people will come here.

We don’t care at all really. This forum was opened because the members wanted a place to discuss bull pups without all the censorship of other forums.

If we nuked this forum it would be fine with me and the other Admin here.

The only reason I even am reading this forum is because of the current drama. :12:

Come on – admit it , you´re taking a sneak peak every now and then. I don´t think any other Forum at TAG has as many idiots as we have here in the BP section. Our mere existence has brung down the collective niveau of intelligence of the entire TAG Forum by several notches – maybe even for all humankind , It´s that bad … 😯

Even Sears no longer replaces their tools with new one of the same caliber. My 3/8″ ratchet quit working and they replaced it with a used refurbished one that was turned in which too quit working soon…. Bad example.

quote dman1114:

It may be but look at sears for instance… Break a tool. No ? Asked they replace it. Can’t say about airforce. But. Rapid air weapons customer service is the best it gets. If a company is not gonna back up there product I don’t want anything to do with them. The customers is what keeps ed afloat.

This whole issue is not about eds guns. It’s how he handles issues that come up.

ED,

Let’s put this to bed. Make it right even if it cost u a stock.

MG.

WHAT IS IT GONNA TAKE TO LET THIS GO. How would u like to resolve this?

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